sfo1ckh Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I have stairs going over two different rooms and have not been able to get it right, have used room dividers and wall panels to enclose them, but still not right? Also because it goes over two rooms, the moldings from the room below shows up on the stairs. 12_2_20.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, sfo1ckh said: have not been able to get it right What is "right"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 I did a profile, should show up?? But using Home Design Suite 2020 Right is not having to patch with panels to enclose the walls around the staircase. Not being able to have "ceiling" under the stairs for the garage and wine room. Not having moldings show up on the staircase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 I looked at your Youtube vid, but I do not have the object list as whatever you are working in, meaning are you using Home Design Suite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I downloaded and looked at your plan. I saw two problems: 1. you wish to have open riser-single stringer stairs which does not allow any "closing in" of those stairs so published. It makes no sense to have open riser, single stringer stairs run over other rooms without any workarounds. 2. A simple way to do this is to use regular stairs marked to be enclosed also with the setting in "Rail Style" set to "stringer at wall" to by default then have them mostly closed. You wish to have a modern look for your open stairs, I get that but sometimes you have to make compromises between what your software is capable of (without also using Sketch Up to create complicated custom constructs to fill in what HD Pro cannot do) and what you actually wish to portray. Chief Premier has the native tools necessary to workaround this design problem, Home Designer Pro by itself does not, sorry. DJP PS: I just thought of this, you can set stairs to not automatically connect in "Edit Preferences". Once done you can leave your first stair object where and as it is. Then the second stair object you set to a closed-in style (sides and bottoms enclosed) for the run over your pantry area to the second floor. This will involved some patience and trial and error efforts to bring it off but I believe can be done in you are intent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Thanks for the advice, just thought there might be an easier way. Guess I will live with what I got. I am in the process of rebuilding this house that I lost in the Napa fires in 2017. Since I have actual blueprints and permits, it is not really necessary to get it exact, but would be nice to get the feel of what it would look like with an open staircase, as you see the glass panels create this look and feel and thought if I could get "rid" (or make the wall conform to the stairs) wall between the stairs, it would do that for me. Glad to hear even Pro will not do that. Was thinking of upgrading to Architectural 2021, but may not if it does not add anything? Oh, every time I do what you stated, the landing between the stairs drops to the ground level and any adjusting does not fix it; maybe I need to play with it more, but I keep running into change one thing and it changes 3 others that I do not want....something Suite seems to do alot....LOL Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 thanks again, here is the final I could do, still some issues, but no bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawB10 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I took a look at the plan, there's other problems with it.... The Terrain perimeter is on the wrong floor, should be on the 1st floor. Delete the terrain perimeter and rebuild the foundation then set it on the 1st floor Delete the cabinet that's causing the Z-fighting and showing the house in 3d wrong. The Garage and family room are one big room, put a wall on the other side and align it with the Wine Cellar it will separate the garage from the family room. Delete the panels and create a room in the Garage put a door there. The ceiling heights are incorrect (F) should be 144" and (E) should be 145 1/2". Put a roof over the Pantry. On the 2nd floor, delete the invisible walls, change the slab to a balcony, change and resize the newels on the railing. Uncheck extend the slope downward, it's not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 I fixed some of this already, I may do a few of these things, but everytime I change one thing, it makes something else not work in 3D and for me that's the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just the terrain would require me to recreate the slope of the lot as I do not have a file to import, not worth the work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 By any chance do you know where I might find a square column, there are only round ones in Suite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 On the deleting the cabinet, Z fighting, which is?? Where is the cabinet I need to delete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawB10 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Like I said before the Terrain Perimeter is on the wrong floor that's why you don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Can you give me more insight as to how the program sees the terrain that you would set this to the 1st floor; as logic would be the ground( terrain), foundation, 1st floor, 2 nd floor, attic, roof? Also why if this is an option, why it cannot be just changed? What would " build terrain" again do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 The terrain can be created on ANY floor but the idea is to display it on the floor that makes the best sense graphically to display for your project. It is something you do, consciously as a choice. New users have to get over the "Software Knowing things or having intelligence" it DOES NOT HAVE THESE ATTRIBUTES, it is the user who must be informed, knowing, and intelligent. The software is merely a mechanical robotic tool that must be guided to a result-the end user is the guide and is the only entity possible to be responsible for any outcomes, good or bar. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 You stated that my terrain is on the wrong floor, where do I look to see where it is set to, where do I set the floor as I do not remember setting the floor? How do you know which floor is the "right" floor since you state it can be set to any floor? What will I gain from deleted the terrain and rebuilding to set it to the 1st floor? I just remember having days of working on the terrain just to get it to look normal and if I am not going to gain much, I can live with it as it is? Thanks for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, sfo1ckh said: How do you know which floor is the "right" floor since you state it can be set to any floor? Your terrain is fine where it is. It gets created on the floor you are on when you create it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfo1ckh Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 Do you know why Lawb10 said it was on the wrong floor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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