JamesSym Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I am in the process of designing my house in Home Designer Suite 2018. I was not able to change the pitch on the Full Gable Roof from the default 12 to the desired 4 and 12 pitch needed for my home. I sent the file to the support who made the adjustments for me and sent the file back in Home Designer Pro (where I can open to view but cannot change / save it). Is there a way anyone can convert this file to so I can open and continue to work on the updated file (with Gable Roof at 4 and 12) in Home Designer Suite? Thanks, James Pro2--Main_House_and_Guest_House_with_hedges_temp.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Pro2--Main_House_and_Guest_House_with_hedges_temp (eric).zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Thanks so much Eric. That worked and I am able to make changes / safe etc..! I am now trying to play with roof types, and tried every option I can think of to make the front section of the house into a Gable Roof as well (4 and 12 pitch) , but it keeps going back to a Hip roof. Can I make the front section into a Gable Roof with an additional Gable roof section over the large picture window that jets out? (and ideally a 6" Gable the front door as well?) I am not a designer and open to help, ideas, suggestions etc.... Thanks so much Wooster_without_Gable.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 What are you doing with this house? Are you planning a remodel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Yes, we are remodeling.It is completely gutted now (adding apps 400 square feet). As of today, the roof is completely torn down and they are prepping to start framing floors on Monday (then walls) We need to decide the type of doors /windows (sizes and locations) We had plans but we just made a big change in the structural plan and now the right side of the house (front facing) will be 10' high walls, so we will have 10' walls in kitchen, living, dining area. The left side will stay 8' walls, so all room on left side will have 8' ceilings (front living area, spare room, small bathroom, master bath, master bedroom/walk in). We bought the software and are trying to build a 3D model so we can see what it will look like, it just doesn't look symmetrical. My wife is leaning towards an East Coast home feel and looking for ideas to pull it together (i.e. Gable Roof over the front door? Or perhaps a trellis extended to give a courtyard feel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawB10 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Turn auto rebuild roof on, with that off, the roof will not build.The side wall(s) control the pitch of the gable. Delete the bay window and manually build it, that way you have more control over the roof. Since there's no second floor, the first floor ceiling ceiling heights will have to be the same, so that the roof builds correctly. Once the roof is how you want it, then you turn off auto rebuild. You change ceiling heights by changing Ceiling (F) not Ceiling (B) with the garage being the exception. Something like this, 4 pitch.plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Great thank you. Will give that a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 I tried what you described above, but still could not put a Gable roof above the front portion of the house (with Bow window). And then put an Gable roof over the bow window. (it keeps reverting to Hip roof). Once we see how that looks, we then need to decide if we want a Gable roofed porch over the front door (extended 6 feet out), a barn style roof extended over it (again apps 6feet) , or perhaps just a trellis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 It's time that you posted a pic of the existing structure. In the meantime, food for thought... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Here is a simple idea. I do like what Jo Ann has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LawB10 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Here's what it looks like with a gambrel roof.. You gable the front wall, for the side wall(s) you check upper pitch and keep or lower the number, the main pitch can be from 12 to 15" To get the gable on the front, grab the wall and drag it to make a separate bay window room, lower the bay window room and gable the main house wall you made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 Wow! Some really amazing options. There is a sheer wall (4' wall on the front / door wall- closest to the drive way, so that may impact the window door placement. I am attaching the existing construction as per your request. This software / your contributions have been very helpful in helping us visualize the plans, make the changes before we went down a path we couldn't correct. Do either of you do design professionally (interior design ideas as well?) Maybe I need to tap into your expertise for the entire project? Let me know Renovation_File.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 More food for thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 I love these designs. Are you doing all this in Home Designer Suite 2018? I also loved the idea with the Gable Roof over the window/door area. This is the idea I have been trying to do the model for - with the full gable roof over a smaller gable roof that covers the bay window area (likely do a project picture window instead). And then try a Gable roof over the door window area (similar to what you drew (attached) but reverse (closer to the door) and maybe a shed roof to extend the remainder (if needed to balance the look). Quote untitled folder.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Gables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Have you considered lowering the deck off the master bedroom, so that it is less 'ominous' feeling as it leads down to the pergola area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 Love the look with the Gables on both sides. Gives us a little east coast vibe. (are you able to share the structure dimensions you used for this model so I can duplicate and tweak as necessary? And yes, we were struggling with the deck design and were considering a "California room" off the the main bedroom (with living room space- tv/fireplace on the solid wall ((left as you walk out the bedroom door), a roof structure over top, and open to the other deck area where we are looking to build in a outdoor kitchen. (we are asking contractor to see if this is possible) If not, love the tiered deck look / flow to pergola. And thank you again for you input and suggestions. You really get our style! jamesandangeline@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I could only do the porch gables using the Pro Trial, which supports manual roof tools. Sorry, but the trial version does not allow files to be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is there anyone who can take my file ('Feb 5th' plan) file and tweak it in Home Designer Pro to look like the attached picture? I am happy to pay someone for their services. (4 and 12'Gable) According to Tech Support, it needs to be created/edited in Home Designer Pro 2018 and sent back to me unlocked so I can open and continue to edit in Home Designer Suite 2018 afterwards. (apparently, if work in done in X9, I will not be able to do any work on it on Home Designer Suite 2018 ). Let me know what you would charge for your services. Thank you in advance - jamesandangeline@hotmail.com February reno.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Did you know you can rent Pro for $49 per month? You could download the trial and see how manual roofs work, and to work out your ideas, then rent for a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 I really enjoy playing with the software and creating some designs, but am running out of time for this phase of the design and my contractor needs me to make some decisions. (I did download the free trial version, but have been struggling still with this specific design issue). Hoping to bring / pay someone who has more knowledge (and speed) , then once I get past the roof issues, I can settle back in and enjoy creating the other aspects of the design /construction when it isn't so time sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawB10 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 James, You already have the design, and you have the software that can do what Jo_Ann did. There's not alot you can do with the design except raise the pitch and ceiling heights. This should help..... 4 pitch.plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesSym Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Thank you. I think the issue I am having is the outside wall (right side of the house looking from the front) is going to be raised to 10' to give us a 10' ceiling in kitchen/dining/living room). The wall running down the middle will also be 10' to allow for the 10 foot ceiling in Kitchen area. However, the other outside wall (left side) will remain at 8', so the ceilings inside the Master bedroom and bathroom , small bath and front living room with bow window will be 8'. Once I adjust the ceiling / wall heights to reflect this, the roofs changes back to hip. That make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawB10 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Name all the rooms to what they are going to be, then upload the file. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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