dhowe889 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Hello, So, I have begun to model my current property in Home Designer Suite 2015. I have already modeled all of the interior/exterior walls, windows and doors. I have moved on to the roof and this is where my problem lies. I have a full gable roof on my house but my house is not a perfect rectangle. On the back of my house the wall/roof is straight, but on the front the exterior walls do not line up which is causing issues with the auto rebuild function in Home Designer Suite 2015. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Note: I have tried turning auto rebuild roof off and that doesn't solve my problem. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 You guide the roof generator to a desired result,sometimes by using temporary walls, always by settings in wall dialogs-roof tab, The software cannot read your mind so you have to take actions to tell it what you want. Without seeing your plan or at least a screen capture image, I cannot give you precise advice other than the above. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Use the File>Export>Picture to "snap" some pics of the problems , eg a plan view and some 3D views, then use the full editor under the "more reply options" button ( next to post button) to add the pics to your next post , or worse comes to worse a photo from your phone with a hand sketch of your house plan.... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhowe889 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Thanks for the suggestions! I have tried a few different approaches to solve this issue and the pictures below is as close as i can get to a gable roof. I did try adding another wall in front of the home (extending garage wall) and that did solve to roof issue but i couldn't figure out how to hide the wall so it covered the front door. I removed that wall so you could see the issue i am having with the roof line I also began to work on the perimeter and haven't quite figured out how to adjust the elevation which is why the garage looks off. Attached are a few pics to make thing easier! Thanks Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhowe889 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 This is what i would like the roof to look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 As I understand it you want everything under one rectangular Gable roof. Use invisible walls to make the perimeter of the structure into a rectangle. Be sure to change all the wall segments (both visible & invisible) that run in the short direction to Gable walls. Build the roof. After the roof is satisfactorily built be sure Auto Build Roof is turned off and you can then remove the invisible walls. Something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Or does the roof look like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhowe889 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Thanks everyone for all the help. Jo_Ann: That is exactly what i am looking for! How did you do it if you don't mind me asking!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 What is your default 'finished ceiling height' and what is the roof pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhowe889 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 My default 'finished ceiling height' is 107 5/8" and the roof pitch is 4" in 12". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 This is what i would like the roof to look like Does anybody know of a good English to English translator app? Apparently I'm in need of one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhowe889 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Sorry 'Rich_Winsor' for my incorrect description. I would like a gable roof with one straight peek. Also, i do not have any eves on my house. The only overhang is over the front porch where the roof meets the upper support beam of the porch. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 the roof on the front of the house has the same pitch all the way along but is 3 different widths ,eave to ridge , thus the room heights on the front wall cannot all be the same, ie 107 5/8 as stated , at the RH end yes , porch will be lower and garage lower again.... , this is why you get the stepup in your original pic at the garage.... , you would get two steps IF your house is actually as per JoAnn's pic. as the walls are all set at 107 5/8 . take a piece of paper and draw 3 vertical lines and inch apart ,now draw three lines at any angle parallel to each other ,from the top of each vertical and you will see what I mean, the angle lines will never met each other......hence the step in the roof. shorten the LH an d middle vertical line enough and the angled line will intersect the RH line perfectly , you can actually use this method to work out the other two heights if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhowe889 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Thank you Kbird1 and everyone else for all the help. It was much appreciated. I have completed the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 looks good glad you got it..... and thx for posting back....... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 This example has 107 5/8" default ceiling heights and a 4/12 pitch roof with the overhang eaves reduced to 2". The front porch room has the finished ceiling lowered to 101" and the garage has the ceiling lowered to 113". This example has a overhang on the front porch wall (as you stated). Because the overhang has been almost eliminated in the roof build dialog, you have to create one. That was done with an invisible room (which builds a roof over it) thereby creating an overhang. My invisible room is 12" deep. Floor c has been dropped to -24" to bury the floor structure. The ceiling is set to 118 5/8. Once you have the roof looking correct, turn OFF 'auto rebuild' roof. You can then raise the garage ceiling (so that you don't bump your head trying to enter the kitchen!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Rich, Grammar is important to understanding but NOT more important than the communication occuring. Correcting someone's grammar is secondary to helping them and is an unnecessary invalidation of their communication. Though perhaps "corrrect" I consider it rude and unwanted, along with posts that point out misspelling, this is not Facebook or English class, this is a forum mainly for helping others with this stuff. If you are having a bad day, take it out on the nearest telephone pole and not those looking for help here please. Don't make fun of others, help them. DJP 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Geez David, you need to lighten up. I'm sorry if you took the intent of my post wrong and I hope the OP wasn't offended. I was merely trying (with the limited resources at hand) to communicate my befuddlement and bemusement at the situation. If you look at post #5 it's not a matter of correcting grammar or anything else. A simple grammatically correct statement was made by the OP and a picture was attached presumably to avoid any confusion. When someone goes out of the way to repost a clarification of their original post and states "this is what I would like the roof to look like" I simply found it amusing that what later turned out to be the desired roof configuration bore no resemblance to the original request. Go figure. BTW, what do you have against telephone poles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhowe889 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Thanks Jo_Ann for the tip. I have begun to edit wall, ceiling, foundation, and terrain heights on my drawing. I really appreciate all the support everyone! Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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