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My client wants to add two dormers for aesthetics only.  They do not want to change the interior walls so these will be true floating dormers as in the structure will be resting on the roof plane alone with no opening in the roof plane.  When I try to place a floating dormer, I get the warning about intersecting other walls.  Is there a way to add the dormers regardless of interior walls?

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That error message indicates you are using the wrong of the two Dormer Tool choices, use the other one instead. You might also open "Edit - Default Settings - Dormer and make sure the default settings for Dromers fits the type and general size setting for the intended dormer. The Dormer tool is pre-programmed to not allow the placement of a dormer object across the intersection line of two or more roof planes (it must be placed within the boundaries of a single roof plane in order to work and be allowable.

 

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On ‎10‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 11:20 AM, DavidJPotter said:

That error message indicates you are using the wrong of the two Dormer Tool choices, use the other one instead. You might also open "Edit - Default Settings - Dormer and make sure the default settings for Dromers fits the type and general size setting for the intended dormer. The Dormer tool is pre-programmed to not allow the placement of a dormer object across the intersection line of two or more roof planes (it must be placed within the boundaries of a single roof plane in order to work and be allowable.

 

DJP

Thank you for your response.  There are two center dormers that the client wanted to add simply for aesthetics without changing the second floor plan.  If this is a dormer that simply sits on the roof structure, without an opening in the roof, is there a way to place one independent from interior wall conditions?

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On 10/1/2018 at 9:20 AM, DavidJPotter said:

That error message indicates you are using the wrong of the two Dormer Tool choices, use the other one instead.

 

Did you understand/try David's advice?

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I did.  I tried both the Auto Dormer tool as well as the Auto Floating dormer tool.  I finally saved a second copy of my project and deleted walls until the dormer would place and used that copy for elevations showing the aesthetic dormers.

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Try this.

 

In the dormer plan, select a dormer and explode it. Copy its components -- walls and roof, then back in the original plan, Paste/Hold Position.

 

With Pro, you can draw in a dormer wherever you want.

 

Also, try doing the dormer while on the Attic level.

 

Here are 3 dormers, 2 Auto Floating on the left -- one placed on level 1, the other on the Attic level, and the start of a manual one drawn on the Attic level. Just 3 walls with Roof Cuts Wall At Bottom checked.

 

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While I try that I was also wondering if there is a way to make columns and piers show up in an overlay.  It will make it easier to line them up for load transfer.

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8 minutes ago, MississippiMims said:

way to make columns and piers show up in an overlay. 

 

Reference Display. It's limited to one floor, above or below.

 

For locating items like a footing in the foundation on the 2nd floor, CAD lines drawn then copied floor to floor.

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