scubaal Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Just started working with home design interiors to create a plan/model of an existing house - so we can work out some options for a new bathroom in the attic space. I am having trouble recreating the existing roof. The house has a two-pitch gullwing roof. 45 degrees top-pitch and 22 degrees below. The roof sits on the single lower storey so the space above is designed as an 'attic' - with the roof pitches defined by the ground floor walls. Both short end walls are defined as gables and - yep I have a gull-wing roof. So far so good. The problem is that at one of the end of the house the gable is NOT at the end of the building. Its 1/3rd of the way back down the space so it forms a gable triangle for the roof and the lower pitch starts from the bottom of the gable to the external wall. I cant work out any way to create this in the program. Having the Interiors version I have limited control over roof planes - basically have to get the wall definations right and then let the program built it. Can't work out anyway to have a gable 'floating' some way along a roof? Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elovia Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Could you post an image to help us see what you're seeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 sounds like a Dutch Gable Roof but pics are always good ,either from program or the real thing...there is a Tut. on the KB for dutch gables but you may have to play with invisible walls or attic walls if you can't control Roof planes.http://www.homedesignersoftware.com/support/article/KB-00749/52/Home-Designer/Roofs/Creating-a-Dutch-Hip-Roof.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Without a posted image or a plan all we can do is guess what you want. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubaal Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 Yep that's it - a Dutch Gable Roof. Now at least I know what its called. I looked at the KB referenced above which confirms that's exactly what I am trying to build....but I only have the Interior Design version of the software - which doesnt have the ability to edit roof planes like in the tutorial as far as I can see? Is there any way to achieve a Dutch Gable Roof with the Interior version? (ie based on the wall definitions only). Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubaal Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hmm just checked again and the logo at the top of KB article says it should apply to the Interiors version of the software. Question is - how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elovia Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 The icon shows the article applies to Chief Architect Interiors, which is different from Chief Arcitect Home Designer Interiors. My understanding is that you have the latter, not the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Have a look at the KB Article on Custom Cupolas , the same technique of using a BLANK 2nd floor ( set ceiling height to 0" when building) may get you there with a bunch of messing round with room heights and wall placement. There is also a Thread on (Continued) Cupolas a few pages back we discussed several months ago. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 You CAN build the dutch gable roof with ordinary wall and room definitions, as well as a gull wing roof. However, doing both together on the same roof may not be possible. As said in other posts, you need to post a good picture of the existing roof. Kbird: custom cupolas? Huh??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The technique used for custom cupolas ....not really a cupola.....ie using a BLANK 2nd floor, same as you are suggesting , which allows you to do more in a lot of circumstances than you can do, in the Attic level (which HD and Chief restricts) eg getting a room definition and thus control the ceiling height which is needed for doing it this way. Gullwing will also work using this technique ..... though I haven't seen the real world situation , it does work as can be seen with a 3/12- 6/12 and the "cupola" making the Dutch Gable. probably missed something in my instructions in the 3rd pic , so ask me if it ain't working for you. It takes a bunch of fiddling with ceiling heights etc to make it look right , so I'm glad I have Pro for when I need to do this for real then again maybe I did it the hard way? but aren't sure how much control Interiors has on Roof tools? everything here is done with Auto Roofs though. Cupola KB Article http://www.homedesignersoftware.com/support/article/KB-00869/52/Home-Designer/Roofs/Creating-a-Cupola.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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