Deleting floor deleted much more!

[sgcossette]

I am using HD pro 2014

 

I spend several hours today transferring elevation data from a printed site survey to an imported lot plan (as CAD data) of an existing house on a slope. I then added flat areas where needed to create the various other features around the house that have been paved. I then added the house plan and after some fiddling, got the foundation to appear at the proper elevation and everything was looking pretty good. However, I realized the building outline was not quite right, so in order to adjust it, I deleted the first floor (using Build Floor/Delete Current Floor), leaving the foundation. After adjusting the foundation, I added the first floor again and went back to view my floor plan, and everything was gone: The terrain boundary and all features, the CAD drawing that I imported showing the lot lines to scale, everything. I was left with a building floating in space.

 

Is this a known issue? I thought deleting a floor deleted a structure, not an entire drawing plane.

[sgcossette]

Thanks for the reply Solver and the tip about the signature.

 

Alas, once I found the issue (I was editing in a different view) I apparently went over the undo limit. I kept clicking until the button was grayed out and it was not enough to get my terrain back.

 

Where would I find the archive directory?

 

13 minutes ago, solver said:

As you found out, deleting a floor deletes everything on the floor.

A floor is a part of a structure and should never be part of the terrain which can exist completely separately from the structure. In fact, in this case, since the structure is on a slope, neither the first or second floor could be said to match the terrain. As far as I am concerned, this is a bug.

[solver]

The undo limit may be changed. See preferences under General.

 

In preferences, under General > Folders. See the path for the Data folder. I believe the Archive folder is there.

 

Your terrain is built on a specific floor, and becomes part of the data for that floor. You could build it on floor 0 or 2, as it is not required to be on floor 1.

 

Not saying that is the way it should be, just the way it is.

[sgcossette]

17 minutes ago, solver said:

Not saying that is the way it should be, just the way it is

 

Yes, of course. I will take this up with CA although I doubt it will do any good.

 

In my case, I spent several hours developing the terrain before even plopping the house down on it (since doing it the other way never seemed to work well for me). Due to the odd way that HD Pro calculates terrain from elevation lines, I spent hours fiddling with the thing to get a reasonable approximation. So that is why I am particularly amazed and disappointed that the terrain I spent hours on was deleted because it was associated with the shell of a floor I spent 10 minutes on!

 

I did find the archive folder, but no joy. Looks like it only saves the most recent file to allow recovery from a crash or something. I also found some UNDO plan files in the TEMP directory, but HD Pro would not open them, saying they were corrupt (even though the file size looks correct).

[DavidJPotter]

The lesson you should learn from this is to "NOT DO THAT AGAIN" . Never delete the first floor as some kind of "solution"; doing that is not recommended. The software is predicated upon the first floor as the construct's "stable datum". The entire model figures its relative heights from the first-floor level, so when you delete that, it throws the 3D model into a chaos, which you have seen. You develop the primary structure and its floors, then add terrain and adjust it to the structure.You can alter the "building outline" without deleting the first floor you know. If you will take the time to carefully read your provided "Users Guide" and "Reference Manual" you will see that there are no references to deleting the first floor as a solution to anything.

 

DJP