Question On Send To Back & Bring To Front


MSwanson
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I am having trouble with placing a "towel" (interior furniture |  fixture/furniture) in a base cabinet with a sink and then having it make the floorplan confusing as the towel covers the sink and just appears as a square on top of the cabinet.  The towel allows the 3d view to demo how the shelf in the cabinet can be used, however it makes the floorplan appear congested and doesn't give the appearance of a sink cabinet when the towel is placed.

 

I have attempted to use the "View Draw Order Edit Tools/Send To Back" tool, however it doesn't seem to do anything and the sink still appears covered by a square in the floorplan view.

 

Is there another option I have (other than turning off the group the towel is associated with)

 

I have attached an image from the floorplan view.

 

Software I am using:

     Home Designer Architectural 2022
     Build: 23.2.0.55x64

towel sink.jpg

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What you are up against is "Fill Patterns" as opposed to "Drawing Order". Draw order is for strictly 2D CAD objects on top or underneath & etc in plan views. If you can turn off the "flll" of the symbols then I believe that is the effect you wish to have. This can easily be done in Chief Architect Premier and I believe, Home Designer Pro but not Suite or Architectural, sorry. I would be glad to be wrong.

 

DJP

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*** I see you said Architectural 2022 ***

 

 

Answers often depend on which title (Suite, Pro etc) and version (2018, 2019 etc) you are using.

 

You can help everyone by adding that info to your signature (see below for how to turn them on) by clicking on your user name at the top right of the page, click Account Settings, then Signature on the left.

 

Doing so makes it always available, and keeps others from having to hunt for it.

 

And, turn on signature display too.

 

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I was able to create the effect I was going for.  I placed the "Folded Towel" in the attic:

image.thumb.png.9451cc74ea6779c64660c360c34afdf9.png

 

and using a negative Floor to Bottom number (in my case: -120 3/8").  Hopefully this will help someone in the future.

 

The towels no longer cover the sinks in floorplan view:

image.thumb.png.e20eaa2274f1170b4dc1c0b6a7c9837f.png

 

However they still display in 3D as desired:

image.thumb.png.bf06661ef4bf3b1e014c5a37bf332cbb.png

 

Thank you all!

 

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So you found a way to work around your problem, but it was not done the correct way.
You have STILL not said what cabinet you are using, or how you inserted the sink. 

In the pic you posted, it looks like the cabinet is showing in the sink bowl.

 

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Thank you for reaching out @Jo_Ann.  The cabinet is just a base cabinet with a sink dropped in.

 

-Cabinet Information:

     image.thumb.png.dba304fe69ed29308fd79552e64bf24b.png

     image.thumb.png.183f56bdfceaacb15371227190445f10.png

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     image.thumb.png.8e017f601e05b211dd8b2ddc0ff59236.png

 

-Sink Information:

     Home Designer Core Catalogs / Architectural / Plumbing Fixtures / Sinks / Bathroom Sinks / Without Fixtures / Vanity / Oval (undermount:

     image.thumb.png.8ccf46a0967e9b310483faf12c6052f4.png

 

-Towel Information:

     image.png.43ca387f566541eaa6e1572a4543f3be.png

     image.png.db4a603a2b85b9f243965f3e61161271.png

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In my Architectural 2018 program, the draw order tool does NOT work for the towel (furniture layer).  Sending stools under a cabinet counter overhang (2d view) using the draw order tool, has never worked, either.


In the trial Pro 2018, and also Pro 2021 trial, the draw order tool works like it's supposed to.


Maybe this is a bug with the Architectural program version, that was never fixed.  
Because you have the new 2022 version of Architectural,  you should report it.

 

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@Jo_Ann Thank you for this!  I did used to use the Send to back tool in my Home Designer Architectural 10 but it does seem to have changed.  I will report it and see if they can correct it.  @DavidJPotter mentioned that this tool only works for 2D items which would be a bummer if it got changed in this way.  Perhaps there were more options than the 3 I see now:

     image.png.69048dc3b46e689a1d41686bc6fc57e3.png

I can't recall what it looked like before.

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5 hours ago, MSwanson said:

and using a negative Floor to Bottom number (in my case: -120 3/8").

 

That's a good solution for Home Designer users and good out of the box thinking.

 

In Chief, I'd place those items on a new layer and turn the display of that layer off in plan view. 

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