SteveRC Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Hi - I am trying to place a ceiling beam on the 2nd floor of a 2 story structure, and no matter what I do, the beam is placed exactly 1 foot below the rough height of the ceiling. I will mention that I increased the height of the 1st floor walls by 1 foot. This seemed to go fine - I made the appropriate adjustments to everything else, and all ceiling heights are correct on both floors, the roof appears to be normal (displays correctly, etc.) and all interior ceilings when viewed are correct. The 1st floor framing is fine. I can place a ceiling beam there no problem. However, on the 2nd floor, the beam is placed seemingly at the "former" height (before I added 1 foot to the 1st floor height). If I adjust the height of the beam, the framing builder does not recognize that the beam is there. Framing goes right though the beam. If I place the beam and DON'T adjust the height, the framing builder does recognize the beam is there, and laps the joists over the beam, etc. as would be expected. I am attempting to place a flush beam (and I have done so on the 1st floor without incident). I have attached the plan file for reference. Any suggestions? I am absolutely stuck! Thanks and Regards, Steve MirrorLake_hs_beam_test.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 A lot will depend on what version and year Home Designer product you have. You can try to select the beam, open the DBX, raise the beam by whatever height you need and click "bearing beam." That should change that particular beam. I am guess what it's doing is using the default setting at "below floor joists" if that's in your framing-beam default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRC Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 Hi - Thanks. I have changed my sig to indicate the version (Home Designer Pro 2021 on Win 10). I have explored the help extensively and searched the knowledge base to the best of my ability. I can move the beam height no problem, but the framing builder does not recognize the beam, and the framing is not altered (the joists run through the beam and do not stop at the beam). I am reasonably certain it has something to do with me increasing the height of the 1st floor walls, but I can't find any references to what criteria the software uses when placing a beam and what factors determine whether the beam is indeed part of the framing. I've spent quite a lot of time on this. The only alternative I could come up with at this point is to hand-draw the framing plans. Thanks and Regards, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Do you have the default to set to auto rebuild floor framing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRC Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 Yes. And I also tried manually rebuilding the framing as well. It's definitely being built, but moving the height of the beam does not produce the expected result, which would in this be that the beam is treated like a flush beam, and that the joists would end at the beam (and not run through the beam). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, SteveRC said: I've spent quite a lot of time on this. The only alternative I could come up with at this point is to hand-draw the framing plans. What problem are you trying to solve? The beam may be located correctly, so the issue is with the joists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRC Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 I can locate the beam correctly, but when I build the framing (it actually builds automatically), the framing does not recognize the beam as a beam. The joists run "through" the beam, rather than terminate at the beam. All works properly on the 1st floor in the same plan. Thanks and Regards, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, SteveRC said: The joists run "through" the beam, rather than terminate at the beam. I understand, but what's the problem with them running through? Is it just a visual thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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