How to rebuild or show ceiling joists

[Acropolis]

HD pro 18,

 

had the ceiling joists showing in a prior model, but can't get them to appear in the final version. 

 

Help step suggestions are all grayed out, and I do not want to AUTO rebuild roof, as that will screw up roof planes that I have different pitch than the base plan. 

 

Ideas on how to get the joist to show - its seems to me that the material list is short this entire quantity of joists.

[DavidJPotter]

All objects show or are hidden visually by way of "Display Options" dialog. Plan view has its own Display Options dialog, each camera type has its own Display Options Dialog so objects can appear in plan view but not appear in a camera view for this reason: though all Display Options dialogs look alike, there are actually several of them, each controlling, either plan view and another one for each camera type. Check for that 

 

DJP

[Acropolis]

That's not the answer, if it was then they would show and there would be a red plus in the used column, which there isn't  The prior model had these showing in the plan view, not interested in camera views, I need them to be there to be generating a material list!

[Acropolis]

moreover if I go to Build>Ceiling Planes.... it says that "IT" the new one is on top of an existing ceiling plane----- so where is the existing plane?

[MikeGriggs]

I am having the opposite problem. I cannot hide the ceiling joist in view so that i can see the floor plan clearly.

[DavidJPotter]

Post a copy of your problem plan file as well as a detailed description of your difficulty to facilitate a useful answer.

 

DJP

[Acropolis]

David, the detail is the same as what I put in the prior post

 

Build>Ceiling Planes.... it says that "IT" the new one is on top of an existing ceiling plane----- so where is the existing plane?

 

The file red roof  has the ceiling joist showing

other does not, the not one is can't figure out what is turned off - it is there read above... Build>Ceiling Planes.... it says that "IT" the new one is on top of an existing ceiling plane----- so where is the existing plane?

red roof one room.plan

HD_FORUM.plan

[DavidJPotter]

 

DJP

 

 

 

 

[Acropolis]

David, thanks for the tutorial. A great way to show some of these steps.

 

Clarifications -

 

1. that plan was a snippet of the larger plan too big to post, made by quickly deleting a bunch of stuff so not to worry those  walls and roof section that looked like it was eaten you might say, that is not design intent.

2. The ceiling structure setting I recall setting to zero - why is irrelevant but related to that 8mm you were questioning, not sure why the defaults are not standard materials, in that those I never changed since the beginning. 

 

... and most importantly --- once correctly set the ceiling structure immediately rebuilt without having to do it manually joist by joist. Now they may not be in the desired direction so your tutorial helped should I want to rotate them 90 degrees.

 

3. The 8mm is half of the required 15mm which is 1/2" drywall, that was throwing me off in that the floor finish was spec-ing perfectly, and would would use a 2x4 for a ceiling joist - could not figure that so I set them to zero, lesson learned...

 

and to the why you asked about a couple of times... I wanted the joist structure to show in the "framing perspective" so that I am sure the roof builder knows what the intent is, a picture is worth 1000 words scribbled on a drawing. 

 

Thanks again - root cause understood, on to the next dilemma, cut list = buy list where I would expect the buy list to be standard lumber lengths.

 

[TominOhio]

David,

I realize some of the steps you took to make the roof joists can probably only be done in HD Pro.  However, I am wondering if once the roof joists are present (i.e., roof built), it is possible to expose the roof joists in HD Architectural by simply unchecking “Ceiling surfaces”?  Or is this a feature that is limited to HD Pro?  I have roof joists shown in the “Framing overview” view of my house but unchecking “Ceiling surfaces” doesn’t expose the joists when I use a full camera within a room.  I want to know if I need to dig deeper to find out why it isn’t doing what I want it to do or if I can stop beating myself up because it isn’t offered in Architectural.  You mentioned in your video that there are several reasons why one might not be able to see joists in a plan when unchecking the “Ceiling surfaces”.  Where would I find such a list?  So that there is no ambiguity with what I am looking for, my questions are:

             1.   In HD Architectural, can I expose roof joists by simply unchecking “Ceiling surfaces”?

 

             2.  Is there a list (or logic flow chart) that shows what would override one’s ability to see roof joists (assuming they are present) by unchecking “Ceiling surfaces”?

Thanks,

 

Tom

[Jo_Ann]

Answer to #1 & #2:  NO

 

You must build and place them manually if you want to see them.

This was shown in your last posted question.

[TominOhio]

Thank you JoAnn.