How does one draw this dormer roof?

[rfcomm2k]

Two questions related to the attached sketch.

 

First, how do I model the dormer as seen? The red dotted lines represent the interior walls. So far I tried by drawing first floor, then added second floor with 0" walls, then drew the interior second floor walls and changed the room heights to 97 1/8. Then changed the end wall of the dormer to a full gable wall. I ended up with a fairly normal looking dormer roof, but the 0" high wall was seen across the entire roof of the first floor. I grabbed the edit points on this 0" wall and dropped it to below the first floor roof, but I am not sure this is the correct way to do it. And is there a proper way to make the roof planes stretch across like they do, or is this another "grab the edit point and drag" answer?

 

Second question, how do I model that window? I have tried changing the window shape, but then lose the dividers.

 

 

 

 

 

[solver]

2 hours ago, rfcomm2k said:

Second question, how do I model that window? I have tried changing the window shape, but then lose the dividers.

 

See https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/13201-muntins-mulled-arched-top-windows/ 

 

Some info I posted in Suggestions on ChiefTalk.

 

I used a feature in Chief, Custom Mutins, to fix the problem., that you don't have in pro.

 

2 hours ago, rfcomm2k said:

First, how do I model the dormer as seen?

 

2 hours ago, rfcomm2k said:

but the 0" high wall was seen across the entire roof of the first floor. I grabbed the edit points on this 0" wall and dropped it to below the first floor roof, but I am not sure this is the correct way to do it. And is there a proper way to make the roof planes stretch across like they do

 

I don't understand this. You should use a 1-1/2" rough ceiling height instead of a 0". 

 

What roof planes, and what stretch?

 

Images of your model would help.

 

[DavidJPotter]

I would not call this gable a "dormer", what I have always called it is a "Dutch or Texas Gable". Years ago I did a video tutorial on how this is created in Pro and in Premier (the exact same methods and tools are used in both cases). :

 

 

DJP

[rfcomm2k]

Good tutorial David, but I am having trouble relating it to the drawing I attached. Yours works on the premise that I am changing the end walls to dutch gable, but I am looking to do this on the front and back walls. End walls remain as a normal gable.

 

[solver]

Start with this. I made a section of the front wall gable and auto built the roof.

 

 

Now you need the roof to continue across the gable.

 

Break the main roof, drag it across, use the join tool to join it to the far side.

 

http://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cbetFg6doI

[rfcomm2k]

Eric, I tried this and it looked promising. I broke the front and rear walls in 2 places each 15' 3" in from the ends. I selected the middle section of each wall and checked the box for Full Gable. I then built the roof at 12/12 pitch. That looked good except that the 2nd floor wall continued thru the first floor roof at the eave, and the 1 1/2" walls of the second floor poked thru the roof. But I continued and drew in the second floor walls, paying attention to the orientation of the wall layers. I then selected each room and specified the room type and the ceiling rough height.

 

Attached is what I ended up with, and it is not what I am looking for. The 2nd floor walls are exactly where I want them, and the roof pitch is correct for the main roof. I will probably need to change the pitch for the "dormer" roofs so that the ridges all line up, but I first need to get that wall correct.

 

I wish I could just edit the wall shapes to the way I want them and then have the roof auto build.

 

My first post shows a pict of what I am striving for.

dormer test 1.plan

[solver]

Set all your 2nd floor interior walls to No Room Definition. 

 

Set the ceiling back to 1-1/2".

 

Widen the gable wall until the roof looks like you want.

 

Turn off Auto Rebuild Roof.

 

Raise the ceiling.

 

Uncheck No Room Definition on the interior 2nd floor walls. 

[solver]

Forgot to attach.

 

[rfcomm2k]

Got it Eric. This was a great deal of help.

[solver]

Good!