ecurbjk

Flat Roof Redesign

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Hi All,

I'm very new to Home Designer Pro 2017, I'm trying to design an addition to our 60 year old one and one half story home. I thought I would create a post here to see if anyone can suggest an idea to change a flat roof design for the garage and back porch\laundry section. We can't change the gable roof on the main section but would like to change the roof on the garage and back porch to be a little more appealing.

 

I posted the design file on here if anyone would like to make any suggestions on how to redesign it.

Thanks in advance!

Bruce.

 

Addition_4.plan

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Hi,

 

Sorry, yes there are two small bedrooms on the second floor, I don't have them in the design yet.

 

Thanks

Bruce

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Hi,

 

Sorry, yes there are two small bedrooms on the second floor, I don't have them in the design yet.

 

Thanks

Bruce

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I just realized you attached a redesigned, thanks very much. I really like the idea of extending the second floor out over the garage.

 

Bruce.

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Hi Solver,

 

I'm trying to recreate your roof design to replace my flat roofs but can't  get the gable and  shed roof to join like you did. Any tips on how I would go about joining the two roofs?

 

I can join two manual roofs on the same floor with the join tool but can't join two roofs that are on different floors.

 

Thanks

Bruce.

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Right click on a roof plane. You will see Display on Floor Above (also Display on Floor Below) down near the bottom of the menu.

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Hi Solver,

 

I'm trying to create the Portico, I can't get the roof to join up with the roof above, I tried the join tool by using the display to the first floor and I keep getting a message to use the break tool. I tried that at different points between the two roofs but no luck. I also tried raising the ceiling height, but still no go. Any tips on how you did this in your example?

 

Thanks

Bruce

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Roof planes may be moved up, down, side to side, etc.

 

Open the main roof plane and copy the Fascia Height.

 

Open the roof plane you want to join, lock the pitch, paste the value into the Fascia Height field. 

 

This will raise the roof plane up so it matches the main roof.

 

You will also need a V cut in the main roof. Select it and place 3 breaks along the front where the smaller gable will join. Grab the center break and pull it up towards the ridge, creating a V shaped opening. It does not need to be exact -- the program is good at joining things up.

 

See the YouTube link below for some good manual roof tutorials. Search for Advanced Roof. Pro has the same roof tools as Chief Premier, so roof videos for it are also applicable. 

 

Also, search YouTube for David Potter videos.

 

And ...

 

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The built in Help System (always a good place to start)

 

 

 

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Hi Eric,

 

It took me a good few hours to get this far but with your help I created a design very similiar to what you proposed. I found the roof join was the most difficult to get to right and had to create the join manually. When I selected each roof and tried to join with the join tool I always got the popup warning to create a break.  I've been watching the videos online and have much more to learn and try out.

 

I appreciate your help, thanks again Bruce.

 

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Thanks Bruce. Looks good. Manual roofs take practice.

 

You should be able to auto build this roof too -- just a matter of getting all the settings correct.

 

I'm not generally a fan of dormers, but I think 2 would add something to your front elevation, and give those "bedrooms" on the 2nd floor some more light and space.

 

I'd stay away from sticking rock randomly on the house -- because that's what it will look like. Also consider trying to minimize the garage, maybe painting the door a bit lighter or darker than the siding. The focus should be on the entrance. 

 

I'm guessing your addition is the hip roofed space on the left? It really needs a gable roof to match the older part of the house.

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Hi Eric,

 

Continuing with your suggestions, I added the gable roof to the main addition, let me know if this is what you had in mind. Still have to figure out the existing window on that side, the roof peak in overlapping it a bit, we may have to replace it or move it up.

 

We thought about your suggestions for the dormers, but this type of renovation may take us outside our budget. I added my file again in case you have any additional suggestions and a few pics of the house, it's about 60 years old, my wife's dad built it.

 

 

Thanks again Bruce!

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It's neat that there is a family connection with the house. I was wanting to see pictures of the real thing. 

 

Here is another idea. I tried not to change much, just rearrange a bit.

 

My thinking on the outside was to maintain an as built look, so looking at the house, the addition looks like part of the original house, and not an add on.

 

Looks like you will have a bit of exposed foundation, and if you wanted to use some rock, that would be the place.

 

If you use the upstairs as bedrooms, I'd encourage you to consider opening them up a bit. Don't know about your location, but here, I'd need to bring them up to code standards for access and egress. It will be less expensive in the long run to do the work along with the addition, rather than wait.

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Hi Eric,

 

Thanks again for the ideas, it looks great. I'm going to make the changes to see how it looks in the designer. We like the ideas of expanding the main roof so it doesn't look like an addition and the dormers. The biggest issue would be the cost, we may be limited to keeping it simple. Integrating a new roof into one that's 60 years old maybe very costly. We may get to the point where it would be cheaper to tear it down and build new.

 

I'm curious to tap into your experience even more and ask you this,  if you had to create the addition that would include the back porch connected to the garage and the new main addition on the other side all without touching the main roof, how would you design it?

 

When the renovations are completed you will have to visit us in St John's Newfoundland Canada.

 

Thanks again very much for all your help!

Bruce.

 

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1 hour ago, ecurbjk said:

if you had to create the addition that would include the back porch connected to the garage and the new main addition on the other side all without touching the main roof, how would you design it?

 

I'd raise the porch roof up as high as possible and then let the connections on either end fall where they may. I would then suggest the same thing, but cutting the main roof overhang off and connecting a new roof there.

 

1 hour ago, ecurbjk said:

This is where we are located on our wonderful planet.

 

I guessed you were in Canada somewhere close to your actual location. Looks like I could walk from the airport :), then on to the coast.

 

It feels like Canada here. About 10" of snow on the ground and lows around 5 degrees F (-15 C) predicted over the next few days.

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Hi Jo Ann,

 

Love it! Between you and Eric, you have given us some great ideas. My wife and I have spent hours trying to figure out how to design an addition on this story and a half.  We spoke to an local designer but he couldn't provide 3D concept renderings so we thought we would give it a shot ourselves. so we purchased Home Designer Pro. I posted a few questions to the support folks at Chief and they were helpful but suggested I join the form and seek some ideas from folks like yourselves. So, we appreciate your help!!!

 

I'm not an expert but I believe this design would be the most cost effective and less intrusive to the existing roof structure and in my opinion  it looks great. What do you think Eric?

 

My wife had a big smile on her face when she had a quick glance at the pics as she was running out the door. I'm at work now but can't wait to get home and have a go at these new ideas.

 

Thanks again to you both!

Bruce

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On 1/26/2017 at 4:48 PM, ecurbjk said:

Hi Folks,

 

How do I join these two roofs?

 

roof join.jpg

 
 

 

Just a reminder, you probably want to post a new thread in the Q&A,  This really doesn't belong in the Tips section, and it looked like your original question was solved, so other people probably won't be checking on this one again.

 

Based on the image though, I'm not sure what you're asking.  Are you wanting to lower the roof planes over the garage so that they will meet those other ones?  Or raise the others?  Or have another little roof plane in between that will fill in the gap?

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