BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I've created the layout of my existing home on top of the survey and now I'm trying to build the roof as it exists. The footprint of the 2nd floor is smaller than the 1st floor and I'm having some problems getting it build the gable roof over the 1st floor garage. It wants to attach to the 2nd floor roof. How do I do this? I'm using HomeDesigner Suite 2019 A picture of the actual house is attached. A picture of how it came out with the original auto generated walls on the 2nd floor is attached. And a picture of how it came out after I deleted the auto generated walls on the 2nd floor is attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Here are the walls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 and here are the 1st floor walls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 What version and year of Home Designer are you using? Please fill out your signature so it will show in each post you make. A rule of thumb is to always draw your plan with the walls running north to south, and east to west. It will help with the framing, etc. without having to adjust to the weird angles. You can rotate your plot plan to fit the house location. You'll want to upgrade to Pro, as it allows for manual roofs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 10 minutes ago, Rookie65 said: What version and year of Home Designer are you using? Please fill out your signature so it will show in each post you make. A rule of thumb is to always draw your plan with the walls running north to south, and east to west. It will help with the framing, etc. without having to adjust to the weird angles. You can rotate your plot plan to fit the house location. You'll want to upgrade to Pro, as it allows for manual roofs Hello, I was in the process of editing the original post with the software version as you were posting. I'm using HomeDesigner Suite 2019. I bought the software back then to design a kitchen remodel. I did the floor layout then but didn't bother with fixing the roofs. Now I'm designing a garage along the north property line. The new garage will have a hip roof. I'm going to fill the space between the north wall of the house and the new garage with a concrete pad covered probably by scissor trusses on columns for boat parking with roof coming off the north side of that to the angled wall on the new garage and roof coming off the side nearest the house over to the side entry door on the house. I need to get the roofs right on the house before I get into figuring out how to do the roofs on the pole barn/boat bar/car port/covered walkway section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I do think you'll want a version of the program that does manual roofs to accomplish this. For now, set the garage to have "no roof above" and see what that does for the main house. Plus you're working with an almost 7 year old version of the software. To me, Suite is like trying to paint a watercolor with crayons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 What you have posted, is way too poor for anyone to guess at what is needed for the existing house roof. As Rookie65 said, the front of the house should be parallel to the bottom of your screen. Fix your plan. It is the terrain that gets rotated and adjusted to the house. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 It was 2019ish when I did the layout. I've forgotten a lot. It looks like it may be impossible to rotate everything into the requested orientation in one shot with the version of software I have. I have area edit. I do not have area edit all floors. Whether I use area edit or drag a selection box around everything while viewing the 1st floor it rotates the imported survey and 1st floor plan only. The 2nd floor auto generates some walls over the 1st floor in its new location but most of the 2nd floor, presumably anchored by what I had to draw manually stays put. It's been a long time since I did the 2nd floor layout but I think I vaguely recall putting a lot of effort into getting the curved staircase wall correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Keith, with the roof over this room turned off on the garage room this is what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 What if you try to edit the 2nd floor and rotate that? If your main focus is for the garage area now, then the interior layout isn't critical for this exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Change the side garage wall from a gable to a hip roof default Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Keith, thank you! I could swear that there was a pre-existing break in that wall and I had tried that before but.... I copied the plan file without closing or saving the open version I had been experimenting on most recently. When I opened that plan that whole north wall on the 1st floor was one wall. I inserted a break in it, just guestimating about where, set it to hip and it worked. It still shows auto generated walls over the garage on the 2nd floor plan. That's not right, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 They're most likely gable walls, which are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 I've gotten pretty close to getting the 2nd floor edited back together after turning off object snaps and moving the section that didn't rotate one way and then another. I had to delete the (I guess now west) wall of the bedroom for it to let me slide the rooms into the right spot but now I get a warning if I try to pull the auto generated wall to replace the deleted wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 It's ok. Spend some time reading the reference manual for more help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 I just drew a new wall over it. Now I need to figure out how to make the main part of my first floor a room again. I’m getting there. Thank you for your help. Much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 You are doing much better! A pic of the front of the real house, would help us to see what the roof is supposed to look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Keith’s suggestion worked. There are plenty of other roof parts that still need tinkering after I get the main room to be a room again but I’ll tinker at it on my own unless/until I get stuck again. I know I’m going to need help figuring out how to put roof over no walls but I’ll start a new thread for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 I’m not sure how much help a picture from the front will be…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Well... YIKES!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie65 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 If you didn't save your plan, check your archive folder, as the program will auto save projects at certain time intervals. It should have something there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 Thanks, I checked already though. There was nothing useful. There was something from 24th and something from the 26..nothing from the 25th. I opened each to make sure and the rotation wasn’t in either of them. I just restarted from where I began on the 24th, deleted the 2nd floor, used edit area selecting everything and rotated. I’m double checking the all the measurements on the 1st floor before building the 2nd floor this time. There was something off in the area of the stair well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 Okay, I stayed up all night certain that the next click would fix everything but that hasn't happened. I could use some guidance. Something in the area of the staircase is messing everything up. I've tried drawing the stair well on the 2nd floor with the ceiling height lowered. I've tried drawing the stair well only on the 1st floor with the ceiling heigh raised. I've tried about a million variations of wall specifications. I've tried adding breaks all kinds of places. I'm at a total loss. This is what I have now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveUserMike Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 This is what it is supposed to be: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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