BraveUserMike

Thank you, I was completely fixated on making the section of roof that lowered with the fudging/tweaking around the stair come back in line with the rest of the 1st floor. It never occurred to me to tweak the rest of the 1st floor to match.

because if I put it there the roof ridge over the main house breaks that's why I asked you if you were able to do it without the roof line breaking

Doing that, to get the roof ridge across the main 1st floor to continue across as one ridge I have to move the orange room divider well forward of the curved stairwell wall so I end up with roof in front of the curved wall in the plan where it doesn't exist in real life. Have you been able to get the main roof right without getting roof in front of the stairs?

Hey Jo Ann, When you did it were you able to get it to keep the roof line over the main house? The roof line broke for me. I was able to get it back by defining a small open below room in the 2nd floor behind the front door and adjusting the ceiling height; however this separated the little section of roof around the curved wall from the main roof line. I couldn't come up with anyway to get the roof from the main house to continue up to the break point in front of the door without it tearing into the stairwell wall. I was able to hide it a bit by applying the roof shingle material to the gutter. I guess this is as close as I can get with this software unless you have more suggestions. Would I have this same problem if I had the pro version of the software? I feel like it's kind of a bug that the software doesn't respect the exterior wall and ploughs roof through it. Can you explain how you were suggesting to fake the shed roof over the curved stairwell well?

Okay, so if I pull the room divider away until the overhang is no longer hitting the stairwell an attic wall that is defined as a stem wall shows up with a hip roof on it on the ground and the section of roof over the main house between the 2nd floor and the porch roof breaks with the main roof line. I guess I can add invisible 2nd floor walls to define an open below room over the area and adjust the ceiling height to bring the main roof all back in line then bring the edge of the porch back to where it is supposed to be?

And here's what I have in the plan before I start dragging the room divider the defines the side of the porch away from the half wall.

Okay, I’m going to follow your directions and hopefully it will become clear to me what you meant about my measurements but I’m skeptical. As far as I can tell my measurements are pretty accurate. The porch edge of the porch slab/the half wall touch up against the curved wall. The roof line from over the main house comes down to infront of the curved wall where it meets the gable over the porch. There is a 2 foot overhang that buts up against the stairwell. Everything is laid out in the plan just like it is in real life except in the plan the roof plows through the wall instead of butting up against it.

Hey Jo Ann, can you explain more thoroughly? I changed the half wall into a room divider wall already. Which measurements need revision? Which wall needs to be moved and where to?

I replaced the half wall between the edge of the porch and the curved stairwell wall with a room divider and no change. I rebuilt the foundation again and no change. I changed the porch room to a patio room and rebuilt the foundation, then to a slab and rebuilt the foundation, still no change. I can't figure out how to get it not to plow rough through my stairwell.

The extra gable on the end of the 2nd floor was a tiny misalignment between the actual 2nd floor wall and the wall I added to define the fake room behind the actual 2nd floor.

I think it would help me a lot to know the correct way to design the stairwell. Should I be drawing all the walls for the stairwell on both the 1st and 2nd floor? Should I use room dividers to define sections of the stair well as rooms so I can set ceiling heights? I understand stairs can automatically cut their way through floors, do they cut their way through walls? Should I build the stairs before the roof? Here are some photos of the actual stairs

Oh my goodness, thank you! It was the unchecking no room definition I was missing. I had put a wall on the 2nd floor extending the right exterior wall of the 2nd floor a bunch of times before with no effect. Defining the room is what made the difference. I left the ridgeline wall on the 2nd floor as a hip wall. made the back wall between the house and the roof covered patio on the 2nd floor a knee wall added the wall behind the right wall of the 2nd floor to enclose the room copy and pasted the autogenerated leftmost wall over the roof covered patio to make sure the gable length remained the same on both roof lines and it was golden All that's left now is the stairs

Yep, back to trying and trying and trying different things to get a single roof ridge across the 2nd floor without success. This time I'm going to call it quits and go to bed.

As an experiment I deleted the stairwell and enclosed part of the planter with an invisible wall in line with the break in the half wall that separates the planter from the porch. This made the entire 1st floor roof line to the right of the 2nd floor correct. It did not correct the 2nd floor roof line