Need help with roof

[BraveUserMike]

I've created the layout of my existing home on top of the survey and now I'm trying to build the roof as it exists.

The footprint of the 2nd floor is smaller than the 1st floor and I'm having some problems getting it build the gable roof over the 1st floor garage.

It wants to attach to the 2nd floor roof.

How do I do this?

I'm using HomeDesigner Suite 2019

A picture of the actual house is attached.

A picture of how it came out with the original auto generated walls on the 2nd floor is attached.

And a picture of how it came out after I deleted the auto generated walls on the 2nd floor is attached.

 

 

[BraveUserMike]

Here are the walls

[BraveUserMike]

and here are the 1st floor walls

[Rookie65]

What version and year of Home Designer are you using? Please fill out your signature so it will show in each post you make.

A rule of thumb is to always draw your plan with the walls running north to south, and east to west. It will help with the framing, etc. without having to adjust to the weird angles. You can rotate your plot plan to fit the house location. You'll want to upgrade to Pro, as it allows for manual roofs

[BraveUserMike]

10 minutes ago, Rookie65 said:

What version and year of Home Designer are you using? Please fill out your signature so it will show in each post you make.

A rule of thumb is to always draw your plan with the walls running north to south, and east to west. It will help with the framing, etc. without having to adjust to the weird angles. You can rotate your plot plan to fit the house location. You'll want to upgrade to Pro, as it allows for manual roofs

Hello,

I was in the process of editing the original post with the software version as you were posting.

I'm using HomeDesigner Suite 2019.

I bought the software back then to design a kitchen remodel.

I did the floor layout then but didn't bother with fixing the roofs.

Now I'm designing a garage along the north property line.

The new garage will have a hip roof.

I'm going to fill the space between the north wall of the house and the new garage with a concrete pad covered probably by scissor trusses on columns for boat parking with roof coming off the north side of that to the angled wall on the new garage and roof coming off the side nearest the house over to the side entry door on the house.

I need to get the roofs right on the house before I get into figuring out how to do the roofs on the pole barn/boat bar/car port/covered walkway section.

 

 

[Rookie65]

I do think you'll want a version of the program that does manual roofs to accomplish this. For now, set the garage to have "no roof above" and see what that does for the main house. Plus you're working with an almost 7 year old version of the software. To me, Suite is like trying to paint a watercolor with crayons.

[Jo_Ann]

What you have posted, is way too poor for anyone to guess at what is needed for the existing house roof.
As Rookie65 said, the front of the house should be parallel to the bottom of your screen.

Fix your plan.

It is the terrain that gets rotated and adjusted to the house.

 

???

 

[BraveUserMike]

It was 2019ish when I did the layout.

I've forgotten a lot.

 

It looks like it may be impossible to rotate everything into the requested orientation in one shot with the version of software I have.

I have area edit.  I do not have area edit all floors.

Whether I use area edit or drag a selection box around everything while viewing the 1st floor it rotates the imported survey and 1st floor plan only.

The 2nd floor auto generates some walls over the 1st floor in its new location but most of the 2nd floor, presumably anchored by what I had to draw manually stays put.

It's been a long time since I did the 2nd floor layout but I think I vaguely recall putting a lot of effort into getting the curved staircase wall correct.

 

[BraveUserMike]

Keith, with the roof over this room turned off on the garage room this is what happens

 

 

[Rookie65]

What if you try to edit the 2nd floor and rotate that? If your main focus is for the garage area now, then the interior layout isn't critical for this exercise.

[Rookie65]

Change the side garage wall from a gable to a hip roof default

[BraveUserMike]

Keith, thank you!

 

I could swear that there was a pre-existing break in that wall and I had tried that before but....

I copied the plan file without closing or saving the open version I had been experimenting on most recently.

When I opened that plan that whole north wall on the 1st floor was one wall.

I inserted a break in it, just guestimating about where, set it to hip and it worked.

 

 

 

 

It still shows auto generated walls over the garage on the 2nd floor plan.

That's not right, right?

 

 

[Rookie65]

They're most likely gable walls, which are correct 

[BraveUserMike]

I've gotten pretty close to getting the 2nd floor edited back together after turning off object snaps and moving the section that didn't rotate one way and then another.

I had to delete the (I guess now west) wall of the bedroom for it to let me slide the rooms into the right spot but now I get a warning if I try to pull the auto generated wall to replace the deleted wall.

 

 

[Rookie65]

It's ok. Spend some time reading the reference manual for more help 

[BraveUserMike]

I just drew a new wall over it.

Now I need to figure out how to make the main part of my first floor a room again.

I’m getting there.

Thank you for your help.  Much appreciated!

[Jo_Ann]

You are doing much better! 

 

A pic of the front of the real house, would help us to see what the roof is supposed to look like.

[BraveUserMike]

Keith’s suggestion worked.

There are plenty of other roof parts that still need tinkering after I get the main room to be a room again but I’ll tinker at it on my own unless/until I get stuck again.

 

I  know I’m going to need help figuring out how to put roof over no walls but I’ll start a new thread for that.

 

[BraveUserMike]

I’m not sure how much help a picture from the front will be….

 

[Jo_Ann]

Well... YIKES!!