TessHartwell

Issues recreating arcitectural detail wall/roofline bumpout

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Hi! I've been using the software for a few years now but just cannot resolve a roofline issue even after uprading the software. Trying to draw an existing house for the purpose of plans for renovations. It is a gull wing style roof but has multiple rooflines with a pitch change on the third floor. See interior and exterior pics for example of detail. The bumpout starts about 18" off the ground on the second floor and continues all the way to about 10 feet from the roof peak. The attic floor joists DO NOT sit on the exterior wall plates, but instead are nailed to the roof rafters (so they're "hanging" rather than "resting") and have resulted in coved ceilings at the walls in each of the four corners of the second floor.  I cannot for the life of me figure out how to draw this bumpout and achieve an angled wall. I have tried it as a steeply pitched roof and then adding the second roof as a dormer but because the first roof actually covers three floors of the house, I could not get it to work properly.

Now using Home Designer Pro 2020

 

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Answers often depend on which title (Suite, Pro etc) and version (2018, 2019 etc) you are using.

 

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I have looked extensively on this topic and haven't found anything similar hence my comment about working on it for years and finally upgrading the software in hopes that it would help. I also have these odd shaped rake/fascia corners which I've tried to create with soffits, but cannot find a tool to create the curve. Any suggestions for approaching these issues would be greatly appreciated.

 

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It's not clear to me what the problem is. I see a dormer. Pro lacks curved roofs so you will need to use several roof planes with increasingly steeper pitches to achieve the look.

 

Try a Custom Backsplash for the odd shaped rake/fascia corners. Once it's drawn against a wall you can select it and move out/reposition.

 

On 9/14/2019 at 12:35 PM, TessHartwell said:

I cannot for the life of me figure out how to draw this this bumpout and achieve an angled wall.

 

Not sure what you are referring to as a bumpout, and guessing your angled wall is the underside of the roof plane.

 

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Hi Solver, your rendering is correct. I'm calling it a "bumpout" but really it's the interior side of the "dormer". The problem is I can get the inside correct using a soffit (I'm guessing that's how you did this?), but then the outside is missing the roof transition. If it were just a dormer on one floor, that wouldn't be an issue to draft, but the steepest roof  starts at the peak (third floor) and goes all the way to a sun room on right and the entranceway on the left on the 1st floor. I don't see any way to create that in the software. I'm not looking for workarounds. What's the point of being able to generate materials lists if you can't actually draft things the way they are/should be?

 

you said Pro lacks curved roofs, do other versions offer that? I thought I saw somewhere in the forum that you could curve roofs...

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28 minutes ago, TessHartwell said:

The problem is I can get the inside correct using a soffit (I'm guessing that's how you did this?), but then the outside is missing the roof transition.

 

No soffits.

 

What is a "roof transition"?

 

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29 minutes ago, TessHartwell said:

If it were just a dormer on one floor, that wouldn't be an issue to draft, but the steepest roof  starts at the peak (third floor) and goes all the way to a sun room on right and the entranceway on the left on the 1st floor.

 

Pictures of the entire house would help, as would images of the problems you are having.

 

With Pro, you have manual roofs if the auto roof builder is not working.

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