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Problems duplicating roof in photo

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The attached photo is of a home I saw recently, and its various roof lines and dormers intrigued me.  As a training tool, I have been trying to duplicate it.  I have created the overall gable roof and the small gable bump out in the front (see attached), but I cannot seem to figure out how to make the rest work.  Specifically:

  • splitting the large gable roof front-to-back so that the garage roof is set back from the main portion of the house
  • creating the gable feature over the left half of the house with perpendicular shed roof over the porch 
  • creating a shed dormer over the garage
  • changing the roof type of both dormers to metal

 

As a minor thing, I'm also seeing two tiny sections of what looks to be the roof sheathing peeking out in the corners of the porch.  Any ideas what that's from?

 

I have been using consumer versions of CA for many years, but I am fairly new to my current version - Home Designer Architectural 2019.  While I know this isn't the Pro product, it works for my small space planning business and it's helping me design a new home for us.

 

TIA

 

 

Windows OS

Home Designer Architectural 2019

 

 

Pikewood house.jpg

Pikewood overview 1.JPG

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I see you said Architectural, but ...

 

Answers often depend on which title (Suite, Pro etc) and version (2018, 2019 etc) you are using.

 

You can help everyone by adding this info to your signature (see mine for an example) by clicking on your user name at the top right of the page, click Account Settings, then Signature on the left.

 

Doing so makes it always available, and keeps others from having to hunt for it.

 

And, turn on signature display too.

 

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Resources for self help:

 

The built in Help System (always a good place to start)

 

 

 

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There are training resources available (linked above). Have you reviewed them?

 

You mention creating a shed dormer. What specifically is the issue?

 

Same with changing the roof to metal. What are you doing that does not work?

 

Attaching the plan file is often helpful too. Close the program before attaching.

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14 minutes ago, solver said:

I see you said Architectural, but ...

 

Answers often depend on which title (Suite, Pro etc) and version (2018, 2019 etc) you are using.

 

You can help everyone by adding this info to your signature (see mine for an example) by clicking on your user name at the top right of the page, click Account Settings, then Signature on the left.

 

Doing so makes it always available, and keeps others from having to hunt for it.

 

And, turn on signature display too.

 

SIG.thumb.jpg.af17109346e9446432098056e258623d.jpg

 

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Resources for self help:

 

The built in Help System (always a good place to start)

 

 

 

Thank you for your feedback and suggestions.  While I didn't include the info as a signature (good idea), I did mention the info you suggested in my post.  I am running Home Designer Architect 2019.  I don't have any other designation on the software; that's what it shows in the About and what was listed on my invoice.

 

Regarding the help resources, I have spent quite a bit of time with the Help system, Getting Started (ran through the tutorial, too), and the Knowledge Base.  I have not looked at YouTube.  There is a lot of information through which to sift, and I've culled through as much as time has allowed.  In each case, it seems that one needs to know how to pose the inquiry or question to get information to pertain to the specific issue, and either I wasn't posing it properly or the results I found pertained to a different version that the one I'm using.  I thought it might be best just to post here since this community has a lot of experience and seems very willing to assist.

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19 minutes ago, solver said:

There are training resources available (linked above). Have you reviewed them?

 

You mention creating a shed dormer. What specifically is the issue?

 

Same with changing the roof to metal. What are you doing that does not work?

 

Attaching the plan file is often helpful too. Close the program before attaching.

Yes, I've reviewed many/most of the training resources mentioned above.

 

Perhaps I'm not asking my question properly.  As you can see in the screenshot, the peak over the left portion of the house is appearing as a hip rather than gable.  When I make the front wall of the house (common with porch wall) a Full Gable wall, nothing happens.  When I  make the front wall of the porch Full Gable, the entire porch roof becomes a high gable.  I must not be designating the correct wall or section as a gable vs hip roof because I cannot make it work as I want it.

 

Regarding the shed dormer over the garage, the dormers I've created are small and gabled.  I have not learned how to make a shed dormer with the version I'm using.  Perhaps I just haven't found that tutorial yet.

 

When I click on the roof section over the porch to change it, I tried using Material Painter to change the roof on that section only.  Unfortunately, it changed ALL of the roof to the metal roof.  How to I segregate the portion to be changed to just a certain area?

 

If I am asking too basic of questions in this forum, I apologize.  Just trying to figure out a few things.

 

Thx

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29 minutes ago, melrowgo said:

When I click on the roof section over the porch to change it, I tried using Material Painter to change the roof on that section only.  Unfortunately, it changed ALL of the roof to the metal roof.  How to I segregate the portion to be changed to just a certain area?

 

Read up on how the material painter works. There are multiple modes -- you need to select the correct one.

 

31 minutes ago, melrowgo said:

Regarding the shed dormer over the garage, the dormers I've created are small and gabled.  I have not learned how to make a shed dormer with the version I'm using.  Perhaps I just haven't found that tutorial yet.

 

Dormers work like most other objects, you select it, open its dialog and make changes.

You also have Default Settings that may be changed -- set roof to shed for example.

 

2 hours ago, melrowgo said:
  • splitting the large gable roof front-to-back so that the garage roof is set back from the main portion of the house
  • creating the gable feature over the left half of the house with perpendicular shed roof over the porch 

 

I don't understand these two. Do you have better images of the house you are modeling?

 

When asking about roofs, using a Technical Illustration with the patterns off (3D>Toggle Patterns), gives a clearer picture.

 

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And posting the plan file will help answer your questions.

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Thank you for the tip of looking on YouTube.  I found this video that answered nearly all of my roof questions.  I will use the techniques I learned here and see if I still need help.  

 

Re: the Material Painter, I tried a couple of the modes but didn't get the result I was hoping for. I apparently wasn't using them correctly and will try again.

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1 hour ago, melrowgo said:

Re: the Material Painter, I tried a couple of the modes but didn't get the result I was hoping for. I apparently wasn't using them correctly and will try again.

 

Here I used the Material Painter on a dormer and the surrounding roof plane.

 

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