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This one is weird.  It doesn't seem to be hurting anything (at least yet) but it definitely does not belong.  I cannot figure out how to get rid of it.  Has anyone run into this before?

 

This time I attached the plan since I've been told you need it to figure it out?

 

Thanks,

 

JHawk

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Floor Plan - Rev U.plan

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Not there when I view the plan.

 

Can you select it? If so, it will show in the status bar what it is.

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Not there when I view the plan.

 

Can you select it? If so, it will show in the status bar what it is.

I can't select it.  It's definitely there.  I tried closing the plan and reopening it but still there.  It's also there in the exact same place at the other end of the hall.  I reattached it because I think I attached an earlier version that it may not be in.

Floor Plan.plan

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Still does not show for me.

 

You do have a railing that is causing the wall problem between the master tub and shower. Pull the 3 walls back and you wil be able to see and delete the railing.

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I think it is the edge of your invisible walls showing sometimes , trying changing the 4 1/2" invisible walls to a Room Divider instead.

 

I don't see it either  (videocard issue?)  but your image seems in the same place as the edge of the invisible wall.

M.

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Still does not show for me.

 

You do have a railing that is causing the wall problem between the master tub and shower. Pull the 3 walls back and you wil be able to see and delete the railin

 

 

I think you might have me on the trail to fixing the master bath.  I made it a half wall and that helped it.  I still need to play with the shower glass.  I made it a second wall with a railing and it seems to be making the crown molding do weird stuff.

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I think it is the edge of your invisible walls showing sometimes , trying changing the 4 1/2" invisible walls to a Room Divider instead.

 

I don't see it either  (videocard issue?)  but your image seems in the same place as the edge of the invisible wall.

M.

 

I'm running 2014 so I'm not sure if that's why I can't find anything that says Room Divider?

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2014 what?  please add that information in your Profile Signature  > UserName- above right side >my settings>signature   there are something like 30 versions of the SW supported here and is needed for many answers.

 

I think Room Divider came in 2015 to replace the Invisible Wall and is really an Invisible wall that is 0" wide , but I am not sure if 2014 will accept 0"  but you can try these settings from 2016 and make a new walltype the same perhaps? (don't know what SW you have)

 

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If it continues try new videocard drivers from the maker of the videocard , not the computer maker or Microsoft.

 

 

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2014 what?  please add that information in your Profile Signature  > UserName- above right side >my settings>signature   there are something like 30 versions of the SW supported here and is needed for many answers.

 

I think Room Divider came in 2015 to replace the Invisible Wall and is really an Invisible wall that is 0" wide , but I am not sure if 2014 will accept 0"  but you can try these settings from 2016 and make a new walltype the same perhaps? (don't know what SW you have)

 

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If it continues try new videocard drivers from the maker of the videocard , not the computer maker or Microsoft.

Hey Kbird...thanks for all the tips.  I added my s/w to my signature and did a little checking into the invisible wall settings in my s/w.  It appears I cannot set my wall to 0" or anything real small.  I have been debating upgrading my software but am only designing one house to live in and doesn't seem worth the cost but if I keep on having issues I may be forced to.

 

I'm not a big computer wizard so I'm going to have to figure out the video card thing.  Not something I've ever really played with.

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Ok...I think I've figured out why it is giving me these lines.  I think there is some kind of an error because I am transitioning from a 10' ceiling to a 9' ceiling in this room (really more of a corridor).  When I change it to 10' the lines go away and everything seems to be right.  I'm wondering if I really just need to make it 10'?

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If you know your computer specs put them in your Sig. happy to help if I can....

 

Not sure about the 9' vs 10' thing , it shouldn't "need" to b 10' . they don't show on my comp. which made me think it was vid. card related , eg older Intel HD Graphics or something.

 

M.

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If you know your computer specs put them in your Sig. happy to help if I can....

 

Not sure about the 9' vs 10' thing , it shouldn't "need" to b 10' . they don't show on my comp. which made me think it was vid. card related , eg older Intel HD Graphics or something.

 

M.

I'm running an Intel HD Graphics 4000 on a brand new Dell Inspiron 3647 computer on Windows 10.  As soon as I change the ceiling height to 10' the problem goes away.  When I lower it back to 9' it reappears.  If I drag the wall over a little it moves the line I'm referring to.  It definitely gives the appearance of an issue because it even reshapes the line depending on where I drag the invisible wall to.  

 

Oops...scratch that, I just realized that I'm not designing on my Desktop, I am actually doing it on my Surface Pro 3.

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When I looked at your plan the 1st time I did it on my S3 actually (non pro) on Win 10 too and don't see them but aren't using Pro 2014 , not sure if I installed the latest Intel Driver or not after I let Win10 load ,might be worth checking....

 

just downloaded plan on my desktop with NV card and no lines there at 9' or 10'

 

I know they (CA) made some fixes in 2015/2016 for Intel Cards after lots of complaints on CT of issues in x6 and x7, so perhaps it is a bug?

 

DJP is one person who has multiple versions on his Computer you could try PMing him and see if he'll look at it for you.

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PS .    delete the glass shower walls you have where the wall is broken and instead use soffits made into glass panels sitting on top of your half wall, I don't use the glass showerwall often as it seems to do weird things , but you have several stacked up in that shower behind the 1/2 wall.  Also that 1/2 rail should be one wall with a door in it raised to threshold height for your Shower Tray.

 

M.

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PS .    delete the glass shower walls you have where the wall is broken and instead use soffits made into glass panels sitting on top of your half wall, I don't use the glass showerwall often as it seems to do weird things , but you have several stacked up in that shower behind the 1/2 wall.  Also that 1/2 rail should be one wall with a door in it raised to threshold height for your Shower Tray.

 

M.

Thanks...I've been struggling with that area.  I will give it a try.  Crazy how many tricks there are to this program...

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instead of soffits for the Room Edge Drops  use a Slab or Custom Countertop and add the Crown Moulding to it , it wont be effected by the Half wall below

 

this method here

https://hometalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/137-tray-and-vaulted-ceilings-and-wall-affects/#entry7765

 

Wow...nice trick.  I finally got back to my plans and this worked nicely.  But...with one exception.  I had to use the "custom countertop" method to get the crown molding to work correctly which was fine and easy everywhere until I added the soffit above a cabinet with a sink in it.  Both soffits above the sinks have a hole in them for the sink.  At first I couldn't figure out what was going on but then I realized it was just trying to create the hole for the sink even though it was a foot thick, drywall, on the ceiling.  Is there something else I can convert it to and still get the crown molding to work right?

 

Many thanks for all your help!  As a first time designer and one time home builder this help has saved me!

 

JHawk

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Wow...nice trick.  I finally got back to my plans and this worked nicely.  But...with one exception.  I had to use the "custom countertop" method to get the crown molding to work correctly which was fine and easy everywhere until I added the soffit above a cabinet with a sink in it.  Both soffits above the sinks have a hole in them for the sink.  At first I couldn't figure out what was going on but then I realized it was just trying to create the hole for the sink even though it was a foot thick, drywall, on the ceiling.  Is there something else I can convert it to and still get the crown molding to work right?

 

Many thanks for all your help!  As a first time designer and one time home builder this help has saved me!

 

JHawk

 

 

The described behavior appears to be an "order drawn" one.  If you use the earlier-mentioned technique to create a soffit out of a countertop AND THEN place the base cabinet with a sink, you won't get the hole in the "countertop soffit".

 

I just tried a model with a simple test plan to observe this behavior.  If you already created the base cabinet and sink, you can temporarily move it out of position from under the countertop soffit, then force a redraw/recreation of the soffit at the sink location (you would do this by temporarily removing the portion of countertop soffit over the sink area and then putting it back - easier done than described).

 

Alternatively, if you need a more permanent fix, you could break and remove those portions of the countertop soffit above the sink, and then use a regular soffit with the same crown molding applied.  I'm sure there will be exceptions to the rule where this won't be possible; for example if you're using the countertop soffit on a curved wall.

 

Another kludge fix would be to co-locate a slab object in the countertop soffit at the hole - in effect, patching the hole.

 

Yet another approach might be to create the soffit out of a slab, and then also apply a thin veneer countertop soffit at the exposed edges of the slab on which you want the crown molding applied.

 

Hope this helps. :)

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The described behavior appears to be an "order drawn" one.  If you use the earlier-mentioned technique to create a soffit out of a countertop AND THEN place the base cabinet with a sink, you won't get the hole in the "countertop soffit".

 

I just tried a model with a simple test plan to observe this behavior.  If you already created the base cabinet and sink, you can temporarily move it out of position from under the countertop soffit, then force a redraw/recreation of the soffit at the sink location (you would do this by temporarily removing the portion of countertop soffit over the sink area and then putting it back - easier done than described).

 

Alternatively, if you need a more permanent fix, you could break and remove those portions of the countertop soffit above the sink, and then use a regular soffit with the same crown molding applied.  I'm sure there will be exceptions to the rule where this won't be possible; for example if you're using the countertop soffit on a curved wall.

 

Another kludge fix would be to co-locate a slab object in the countertop soffit at the hole - in effect, patching the hole.

 

Yet another approach might be to create the soffit out of a slab, and then also apply a thin veneer countertop soffit at the exposed edges of the slab on which you want the crown molding applied.

 

Hope this helps. :)

It did work...this program is crazy, thank goodness for all your help! 

 

JHawk

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