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10 minutes ago, DavidJPotter said:
The exposed rafters are due to you having ordered the software to build framing when the plan is still needing adjustments. You should only build framing when you have the 3d model perfect (it needs some tweaking and cleaning up).
Is there a way to undo the "build framing" ? Or do I just have to work around it?
Thank you for pointing out the facia differences I'll get that fixed.
Thank you for your encouragement. This is about my 4th redraw of this plan and my eyes are starting to cross.
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11 minutes ago, solver said:
Where?
What walls?
The exposed rafters in the 1 1/2 story garage. In the second story part.
The walls in the second story above the garage. You can see the trim where the wall stops at the 2 foot mark. Above that is attic walls. Maybe that is how you do it? But it seemed wrong to me.
Thank you,
Angie Robshaw
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I can't find a lot of information on 1 1/2 story building. There is a 1 1/2 story only over the garage. There are multiple problems I'm running into. One is the exposed rafters that I can't seem to fix. Second I can't figure out how to make the walls go all the way to the ceiling. I have made it work with the top being attic wall, but I don't think that is correct. I would appreciate your help.
Thank you,
Angie
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28 minutes ago, Jo_Ann said:
Why do you keep selecting 'use soffit surface for ceiling' ? UNCHECK THAT.
Then open the dormer and lower the walls to 54".
Well I'm thinking it's because I don't know what I am doing. 
I thought 'use soffit surface for ceiling' meant that the ceiling would follow the roof framing instead of a flat ceiling. Thank you for solving the mystery. Very much appreciated on this busy day.
Angie
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Why do I have exposed Osb on the corners? 1 1/2 story garage. What am I missing?
Thank you,
Angie
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5 hours ago, solver said:
New video with sound linked above.
Thank you! Thank you! Also thank you for the roof tutorial link. I will definitely be watching them. Roofs seems like the hardest part of drawing plans, to me anyway.
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1 hour ago, DavidJPotter said:
Me too!
Thank you for adding your video too David. I think you the solved the mystery of why my materials would phantom change back to tan siding and cream trim. I didn't realize I had to change defaults in materials in addition to walls. Thank you for going above and beyond and explaining so many other details and how things work. Really really helpful.
DJP
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13 hours ago, solver said:
Watch on YouTube: http://youtu.be/uAbZFBHYfBk?hd=1
Thank you for having mercy on me Eric. I subscribed to your channel and I plan to binge watch your roof videos.
Going to learn this. There is no sound on your video, (I don't think it was me, I could hear Davids) Not sure if you can simply click a button to turn on the sound, your instructions are always so helpful. If it's not that easy, no worries. I watched yours twice and I think I got most of what you were teaching. Between the two of you I see how to do it. I wasn't as off as I thought. I got most of the way there. Didn't understand how the attic walls worked when cut off by the roof above. Also figured dragging roofs was a "no-no" since dragging walls was in my last house.
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Ha! Yes Eric, that is what I am trying to do.
I've watched and rewatched the roof instructional videos. What they say to do is not working. I'll continue playing around. But I really need more instruction than what is given. I completely started over drawing the plans incase that was the problem. If you know of other great manual roof videos other than than what is listed under Home Talk I would be very grateful. (I've also read and watched so many roof posts on this forum, but I definitely could have missed some. I want to learn.
Thank you,
Angie Robshaw
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Probably the title should read "I'm not installing the roof properly"..... Anyway, I've watched Beginning Roof Deign and Advanced Roof Design. I've built and rebuilt according to the instructions but the roof is never fully functional, either missing attic walls it won't seem to let me add , or not building framing. I've included pictures of what I'm trying for and an example of my failure to produce. The main gable doesn't respond to the gable roof tool. Also the porch roof which is at a much lower pitch does not respond by the instructions in the videos. I can force it, But I know it's not structurally right. Currently I just deleted the whole roof and let it auto rebuild the default roof settings. Any wisdom is greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Angie
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19 minutes ago, solver said:
You have it correct -- I was mistaken. Take a look at the Build>Floor menu. You can insert new floors, exchange floors etc. What I suggested above was to create several blank floors with defaults set, then copy/paste from floor 1 on old plan, to floor 2 on new plan.
Current problem: Go to Attic level and Delete Current Floor. You will see a bunch of unneeded invisible walls. The program will rebuild the floor automatically.
Eric,
Thank you so much for your help! Seriously. A huge thank you. I've learned a ton from your corrections.
God Bless you!
Angie Robshaw
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2 hours ago, solver said:
I'm going to suggest you start over.
Make what's now level 0, level 1, and so on.
Start a new plan, set your floor defaults, build a new blank floor setting its defaults, then copy/paste hold position from plan to plan.
Use Edit>Reset To Defaults and choose wall top and bottom heights.
You have manually adjusted many of the wall top and bottom heights. When you do this, the program will no longer automatically change them.
You have turned off auto rebuild deck framing, so the deck does not automatically lower.
Try to work with the program instead of against it.
You now know what pitch you need for the roof, so it should be set to auto build.
Changing floor settings in defaults should work -- except for all the manual adjustments you have made.
Eric,
That went way faster than anticipated, I guess I learned more than I thought. I'm a bit afraid to submit this for fear that I have missed a bunch, but I "think" I have it except the cedar siding over exterior right side wall doesn't go all the way up? I've deleted and redrawn with no luck.
Also, I do not know how to move level 0 up to level 1, so I left it as it was. I followed a tutorial for building a house on beams. I was afraid I would mess it up if I started playing around with it.
Thank you for your help Eric. I will show your bathroom suggestion to the client.
Angie
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19 minutes ago, solver said:
I'm going to suggest you start over.
Make what's now level 0, level 1, and so on.
Start a new plan, set your floor defaults, build a new blank floor setting its defaults, then copy/paste hold position from plan to plan.
Use Edit>Reset To Defaults and choose wall top and bottom heights.
You have manually adjusted many of the wall top and bottom heights. When you do this, the program will no longer automatically change them.
You have turned off auto rebuild deck framing, so the deck does not automatically lower.
Try to work with the program instead of against it.
You now know what pitch you need for the roof, so it should be set to auto build.
Changing floor settings in defaults should work -- except for all the manual adjustments you have made.
Ughh! Start over? Maybe that is best. But the hours of blood, sweat, and tears..... ;o
I will take your advice, since what I am trying is not working.
Thank you Solver
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I need to change the first floor ceiling height from 10 ft to 8 ft. When I try and change it thru defaults, 1st floor ceiling height, it only lowers the middle section of the house and strange things happen to the remaining floor sections all around. What is the better way to do this?
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On 10/27/2019 at 9:11 PM, solver said:
yes! That I can do. Thank you for bringing it down to my level Eric.
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2 hours ago, Jo_Ann said:
When you select 'no ceiling over this room', the underside of the roof becomes the ceiling.
BUT...the software still sees the space between the roof plane and the set ceiling height of the room, to be 'attic' space, so it builds 'attic' walls. You NEED to let the attic walls build.
I used the soffit method. Set the walls on one side of the building as invisible, so that you can see the relation between the soffits and the roof plane, as you change the settings on the plane.P.S. In your default settings, for some reason you have set the soffit default to 'sloped'?
Ok, Progress. Your method worked great for the interior walls. I did have to change the wall setting to "balloon through walls" to get it to work. However when I tried it on the exterior walls crazy things started happening. One wall shot thru the roof. Another, when I deleted it auto rebuilt a wall across the living room, when I tried to delete it more strange things happened. I ended up backing out of everything I tried and leaving the exterior walls as they were.
Question : Ideas on what I have wrong on the exterior walls?
Question: I can't find where my soffit setting are located, other than the cabinet soffits. Can you direct me?
Question: When you use the invisible wall method to check the relationship between the soffit and the roof plane, which view is best? I was using the cross section elevation tool.
And Question: Do you know if you or someone offers tutoring? I think I could learn much faster that way. Hopefully
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On 10/20/2019 at 7:26 PM, solver said:
Do you have Auto Rebuild Framing on for everything?
Ah, No I did not. Thank you again Eric.
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On 10/20/2019 at 8:15 PM, Jo_Ann said:
It seems that you dragged your walls up to the height and shape that you wanted. This is usually a no-no. There also are currently useless attic walls on the attic level (did you draw them?). Delete them.
All the rooms need to be set to the default ceiling height of the bedrooms (rough ceiling 96"), and then allow the attic walls to rebuild.
To fix the framing (up on the tool bar)> Build framing> 2nd> wall> auto-build wall framing.
Since you used a manual roof plane, open it's dbx.
Set the baseline height to 239" and then re-lock it.
Set the ridge top height to 315"
Set the pitch to 1.75"
This should at least get the roof heights really close to what you are trying to get.Jo_Ann, I really appreciate all the help. I didn't realize dragging the walls was a no-no. Also didn't realize about the Auto Build walls feature, I'm very excited about this. I'm learning my way thru this. Wish I could take a class. The attic walls, I don't know how they got there, but there is not supposed to be an attic, the ceiling is the roof line. I tried and tried to delete them but they remained. I accidentally went up a floor and there they were, I was finally able to get rid of them.
The roof help is phenomenal, I limped my way thru to get it mostly right. I will implement all of the changes you recommended.
I did figure out that I could use the cross section/ elevation tool to get the wall height of both ends of the house.
God Bless your Day,
Angie
Question, to get the roof dimensions, did you use Eric's Trigonometry method or another way? I would like to learn how to do it confidently myself. Unfortunately Erics idea of "simple trig" isn't simple to me. I know I can learn it with more instruction, but I wondered if there was another way.
I did go back and do what you said on the walls. Unfortunatly, every time I draw in a wall, it adds that pesky attic wall back in. I turned off Auto build attic walls, but it's still happening.
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When I look at the plan in Framing view its missing a wall on one side and the back walls go thru the roof. It doesn't look like this in any other view. Ideas?
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38 minutes ago, Jo_Ann said:
Not sure why you re-posted the exact same plan (with no changes) that you originally posted?
BUT.. you need to check your lowest roof height in the bedrooms (if you are using the soffit for height method, you will see).
You have also made some mistakes when drawing your walls, that need to be fixed.
I think I had already "fixed" it by the time you opened it. But maybe I did just repost the same picture. I've been working on this plan all day and my brain is shutting down
I think I finally fixed the wall height correctly. Thank you for pointing that out.
Could you indicate what might need fixing on my drawing? Or what I should be looking for?
Thank you again,
Angie
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Sorry, didn't bet back fast enough to delete me question. Played around with the baseline until it worked. I hope to learn the correct way to adjust it, but for now, at Least it seems to be figured out. Thank you very much for your help.
Angie
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On 10/17/2019 at 7:52 PM, solver said:
Eric, Thank you for the video explanation, it helped a lot, I watched it twice and will watch it again. I used a combination of JoAnne's idea and yours to get my wall heights correct. Unfortunately when I Auto Build roof, it is floating over my house. Do you know what do I need to adjust?
Angie
P.s. It would be so amazing if the shed roof had a handle to raise or lower it. Maybe that will be an upgrade.
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On 10/16/2019 at 10:33 PM, Jo_Ann said:
The simple way?
Try this... place a 14' soffit, then adjust the roof pitch until 14' is reached on that wall.
JoAnne, thank you for your suggestion.That seems like a great, simple way.
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I am trying to make a shed roof that starts at 8' and ends at 14'. I'm having difficultly finding how to do this in a simple way. I have adjusted the rough ceiling heights to 14' but the roof is measuring 12' at the highest point, and though I adjusted the rough ceiling height to 8', it's still measuring at 9'. What am I doing wrong?
The only way I have been able to figure out the wall height ( and I'm sure this is a terrible way) is to look at the house in framing view and click on individual studs.
Also is there a way to check the height of a wall at any point you wish? Since the house in one continuous shed roof, that would be helpful.
Thank you,
Angie
I thought 'use soffit surface for ceiling' meant that the ceiling would follow the roof framing instead of a flat ceiling. Thank you for solving the mystery. Very much appreciated on this busy day. 
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Thank you SO much David. I'm glad at least some of my issues were not user error.