RubbleBuilt

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  1. Ooof lol, I originally posted on a different forum and the person who helped said they didnt have home designer x17 so i figured that was what i used lol. thank you for the assistance ill post there.
  2. Hi everyone, First off, I apologize in advance for my limited experience and knowledge. I am a complete amateur and definitely not an architect or engineer. I’m trying to learn as I go, and I genuinely appreciate any patience or guidance. I am currently designing a small cabin in Chief Architect and have run into an issue with my shed roof and wall heights that I cannot figure out. Project specs: Cabin size: 30' x 16' Shed roof design Roof pitch: 1.5/12 Intended wall heights: Low wall: 8' High wall: 10' Vaulted ceilings throughout following the roof line (no flat ceilings anywhere) The intended framing setup is: Low shed wall: 91 1/2" studs 4 1/2" combined plates 8' overall wall height High shed/gable wall: 115 1/2" studs 4 1/2" combined plates 10' overall wall height Two side gable walls: 91 1/2" studs 4 1/2" combined plates 8' overall wall height with rake walls built above following the roof slope From my understanding, the math should work correctly: 1 1/2" x 16" = 24" 8'-10' 24" difference ? So unless I am misunderstanding something fundamental, a 1.5/12 pitch across 16' should naturally create approximately 2' of rise, meaning an 8' low wall and 10' high wall should be achievable. However, in Chief Architect, I cannot seem to get the roof/walls to generate correctly. What I have tried: Turned OFF “Flat Ceiling Over This Room” Set my top plate/wall height to 96" Set roof pitch to 1.5/12 Manually drew roof planes Rebuilt roofs/framing multiple times One thing that confused me even more is that I actually managed to get it working temporarily by splitting the structure down the middle with an interior dividing wall. When I did that: I could assign one side as the 8' section and the other side as the 10' section and the roof/framing generated properly However, the cabin is intended to have an open interior with continuous vaulted ceilings from the 8' side to the 10' side. As soon as I remove that dividing wall and rebuild framing/roof: the high wall extends above and past the roof plane, the wall heights become incorrect, one stud shows approximately 121 13/16", and the overall roof/wall intersection looks wrong. At this point, I suspect the issue is probably related to: Roof baseline settings Wall definitions Ceiling/roof relationships Room definitions Attic wall generation Or how Chief calculates automatic roof generation in open vaulted spaces rather than the roof geometry itself being impossible. Could someone explain: The proper way to set up a simple open vaulted 8' to 10' shed roof in Chief Architect Whether I should be adjusting baseline height instead of wall height Why the high wall is extending past the roof plane Why the roof behaves correctly with a dividing wall but breaks once the space becomes open Whether my understanding of the roof math/framing logic is correct I would really appreciate any explanations, corrections, or guidance. I am still learning and trying to better understand both framing concepts and the software itself. Software/PC specs: Chief Architect Premier X17 (latest version) Windows NVIDIA GTX 5050 8GB 16GB RAM Intel i5 2.20GHz I will update this with plans/screenshots shortly as I am currently posting from a mobile device. Thank you very much for your time. please help lol.zip
  3. I understand and I apologize for not including screenshots/plans initially I was on mobile and didnt have a file. I’ll attach them to this reply so the issue is easier to see. Right now, all room ceiling heights are set to: 96" finished ceiling 94 1/2" rough ceiling I’ll also try your suggested setup and report back with the results to see if it resolves the roof/wall issue. And yes, the 16' dimension is outside-to-outside overall. For the wall height, accuracy between the plans and the actual build is important to me because the finished high wall will be exactly 10'. The framing plan is based around using 114 5/8" studs combined with 4 1/2" of plate material to achieve a true 10' wall height. Normally I would agree about avoiding cutting every stud, but in this case I’ll likely be trimming them anyway. The “stud grade” material available from our local lumber yards has been inconsistent, and I’ve seen as much as 1/4" variance between pieces. I’d rather take the extra time to cut them uniformly and avoid ceiling inconsistencies later on. 809 showing bad roof.pdf 809 Telegraph Floor plan view.pdf 809 Telegraph render back.pdf 809 Telegraph render front.pdf
  4. Hi everyone, First off, I apologize in advance for my limited experience and knowledge. I am a complete amateur and definitely not an architect or engineer. I’m trying to learn as I go, and I genuinely appreciate any patience or guidance. I am currently designing a small cabin in Chief Architect and have run into an issue with my shed roof and wall heights that I cannot figure out. Project specs: - Cabin size: 30' x 16' - Shed roof design - Roof pitch: 1.5/12 - Intended wall heights: - Low wall: 8' - High wall: 10' From my understanding, the math should work correctly: - 16' span = 192" - 192 ÷ 12 = 16 - 16 × 1.5" rise = 24" total rise So unless I am misunderstanding something fundamental, a 1.5/12 pitch across 16' should naturally create approximately 2' of rise, meaning an 8' low wall and 10' high wall should be achievable. However, in Chief Architect, I cannot seem to get the roof/walls to generate correctly. What I have tried: - Turned OFF “Flat Ceiling Over This Room” - Set my top plate/wall height to 96" - Set roof pitch to 1.5/12 The issue: - My high wall ends up extending above and past the roof plane - The generated wall height exceeds 10' - One of the studs is showing around 121 13/16" - The roof/wall intersection just looks incorrect overall At this point, I suspect the issue is probably related to: - Roof baseline settings - Wall definitions - Ceiling/roof relationships - Or how Chief calculates automatic roof generation rather than the roof geometry itself being impossible. Could someone explain: 1. The proper way to set up a simple 8' to 10' shed roof in Chief Architect 2. Whether I should be adjusting baseline height instead of wall height 3. Why the high wall is extending past the roof plane 4. Whether my understanding of the roof math is correct I would really appreciate any explanations, corrections, or guidance. I am still learning and trying to better understand both framing concepts and the software itself. Premier x17 latest software version Windows, nvidia gtx5050 8gb, 16gb ram, I5 2.20ghz I will update this with plan/screenshots posting from mobile device Thank you very much for your time.