Eric, a thousand thanks! Your help is invaluable and I love the roof design you suggested, an obvious (once seen) and simple solution that we are going to use. After seeing how you were able to change the upper pitch on the shed roof I realized I was mostly doing the same steps in HD Pro 2019 but it wasn't working. I downloaded the trial version of Pro 2025 and it worked just fine, so I guess we will chalk this one up to "out of date software problems". Again, many, many thanks!