chadkee Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I need help getting the roof correct and the two story room. We have a cabin that is a rectangle as shown on the plans. the house has a roof located directly on top of the first floor walls. The pitch is 12/12. The right side of the house that says family room is a vaulted ceiling. I first would love to know how to make it vaulted and remove the floor. The second issue is that I am wanting to raise the roof on the back of the house across the bedroom and bathroom so that we have a full height room to the edge of the house. It will basically appear like a large shed roof dormer. I am also wanting to do the same thing for the bunk room on the front of the house. Please help me. 243 Huckleberry Lane Master & Loft.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, chadkee said: I first would love to know how to make it vaulted and remove the floor. Remove the ceiling? If there is a floor above (not attic), you need to create an Open Below room on the floor above. If there is no floor, uncheck Ceiling Over This Room. It's always good to check the Knowledge Base -- https://www.homedesignersoftware.com/support/category/167/dormers.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadkee Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 The entire house is one story with a steep pitch roof. Half of the house (Family Room) is vaulted and open. The other half is bedrooms on main floor and in the attic or second floor. I am trying to figure out how to do this. I have been reading and testing different ideas from the forums and the knowledge base for the better part of the the last 6 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDbyJustin Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I could not open the file since I run HDPro 2016, but I had a similar situation on a client's house several months back. What I did was go in the room dialog and uncheck ceiling over this room. I believe I had to build the framing for the vault and then do manual ceiling planes to create the look but to also make sure it was built correctly. As far as how the roof is cutting off the ceiling and the wall, the roof baseline is too low. You will have to work the problem backwards to some degree. For instance, the top of your double plates at 9'1-1/8" is where our bearing point is for the rafter. In the dialog box for the roof plane, it will tell you what the vertical height is to the top of the rafter based on the material and pitch so just work it that way. That is the easiest way I have found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 11 hours ago, chadkee said: The entire house is one story with a steep pitch roof. Half of the house (Family Room) is vaulted and open. The other half is bedrooms on main floor and in the attic or second floor. I am trying to figure out how to do this. I have been reading and testing different ideas from the forums and the knowledge base for the better part of the the last 6 hours The plan you posted has 1 big empty space on floor 1, and bedrooms, bathrooms and family on floor 2. Is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawB10 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 It's alot easier to let the software do the work for you. The roof is a simple design. Here the software was told to ignore the second floor and not to rebuild the roof, that's why your having the issue's. By default garages, porches, slabs, attic rooms, open below rooms and balconies are exclude from the living area. Uncheck ignore the second floor and turn auto rebuild roofs On until the roof is how you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadkee Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Thank you for all the help! I am very new to using the software. I am contractor and do a-lot of the designing but simply don't understand the software yet. This is our property that we want to modify and I thought I would use to practice some of these skills. I will attach a few photos for those of you who have been giving me suggestions so you can see the real house. Basically a rectangle... Almost 2/3 of the right side is all 2 story room or vaulted room. The other 1/3 is the bedrooms and bathrooms. The work I will be doing is to the upper bedroom and the loft next to it. I will try some of your suggestions and see how it works out. Thank you Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solver Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 This KB article may help you get started. https://www.homedesignersoftware.com/support/article/KB-00358/automatically-building-a-one-and-a-half-story-roof.html On the 2nd floor, change the room type from Family to Open Below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Because you have HD Pro, and are planning to use it for other designs, you need to learn how to do manual roof planes. Leave 'auto rebuild roofs' off. Do what solver said, and also open the structure tab of the family room, and uncheck 'ceiling over this room'. I can see by comparing the real house pics to the 2d plan, that your roof baseline is not set correctly. It appears to be much higher. Once you have those settings fixed, I think the easiest way to put the roof over the bedroom area is by copy/paste of the main roof plane. After resizing the new roof plane, set it's ridge height to match the main roof (ridge height) and lock it. Then set the pitch to something lower, like maybe 6/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadkee Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 I have attempted to do all the suggestions. I am now at a stoping point again. I will attach my current file and if any of you can explain to me how to correct the walls / roof on the second floor, I would appreciate it. 243 Huckleberry Lane Master & Loft.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I should have read the other subsequent posts first but I did not, hope this helps anyway DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadkee Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Thank you so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo_Ann Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It doesn't appear that you changed any of your settings in the current file, so I am just guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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