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Ok ty

We have decided to go with an arch instead of a circular flat roof.  Something like this pergola but attached to the house and with a metal roof.

I would like to take one of the files we've used in this thread and add that to it but I"m having trouble figuring out how.  THe one LawB10 uploaded is the most complete but again I don't know how to add this for the roof. (Tree still coming through if possible.) 

I hate to ask as ya'll have done so much already but could someone help me out here and share the file with me? Or tell me what to do.

If not no problem.

TY

Joann,

Could you make the gable that is above the flat roof wider and make the wrap around shed roof a gable and run them into each other?  Then could you possibly upload the file so I can open it and look at it, even though I won't be able to edit it?

If not, I understand.

TY

I may download the trial just so I can open the file and look at what you did from different angles and such.

14 hours ago, Jo_Ann said:

Getting results that look good take time, diligence, and a learning curve.
If visuals are all that you want, here are two.

 

Those are along the lines of what I'm thinking...Not sure which one I like best.  The hole needs to be smaller in the first roof (probably 5' diameter...the diameter of the open hole around the tree is 7'.  I don't want stuff falling through too much.  That defeats the purpose.   Also, I want the new gable to be wider, coming over and connecting to the wrap around patio shed roof (or the shed roof may need to come of to it  a few feet, too, in reality)   The flat roof would not be shingled. BTW, the wrap around shed roof is not hipped, it is a gable.

Did you save the files?  I would like downloading them and being able to look at different views.

You guys are so helpful.  I can't say thank you enough.  It would take me weeks to get this far along.

1 minute ago, solver said:

 

I imagine you need some of the Bonus Catalogs. They need to be manually downloaded and installed.

 

 

I will encourage you to move the terrain and not the floor. The program is designed so that dimensions are relative to the floor 1 floor.

 

 

Curious where in Texas. Native Texan here -- Houston then Austin. 

I tried to find bonus catalogs but came up emtpy.  Will look again.

Not sure why I need to move anything now that it appears to be ok??

I'm west of DFW about 75 mi.

I'm beginning to think this is going to be too hard for me to accomplish in this program with the time and skill level I have.  I am pretty computer savy but I don't really have the time to invest right now.  I may just opt for pen and paper!  I just was having trouble seeing what I wanted built but I'm started to get an idea.  I'm very visual and seeing it 3d and in proportion would have been a help.

You all have already been more help than one can expect.

20 hours ago, LawB10 said:

Yes, download the catalogs for your version.

My program says the library is uptodate but I am still missing those components.  Also, the gable on the front (the highest one) is messed when I open the file.  I don't know why or how to fix it but it doesn't reflect what you put in your screenshot.

20 hours ago, LawB10 said:

When you build a room and name it porch or slab the floor will be 20 1/2" from the terrain, you just raise floor (C) 1 1/2" to get 22"

 

Use boxes for the porch fill, if you use wall (s) it will not paint the top of the wall.

Draw a wall to create the garage and rename that room to Garage.

Delete the dormer and build a blank second floor, then build a room where the dormer was, lower that room to 0"

 

In the picture, the back porch door sits about 5" above the porch floor, lower the porch floor or raise the main house floor.

Use a terrain feature for the patio, if you use a roof for the patio, it's going to create problems.

Do a plan check, click tools>plan check.

I'm not clear about all of this.  Are you saying I need to do this or I just need to if I'm going to do certain things at this point to the plan?

One idea I have for the patio cover is to make a gable (A) that ties into the side of the house and the wrap around porch/shed roof.  Not sure how this would work until I verify the dimensions are right in the plan. I'm not sure how deep I want the gable to be (in other words how many feet I want it to stick out from the side of the house).  At least as far as the shed roof but maybe several feet more.  I would need to see it.  Then I want a flat round patio roof (B) with columns.  I'm attaching some rough sketches.  Also a picture of a round flat roof I found online. I am considering keeping the tree and putting a hole through the roof (see pic).  If I go this route I may put a pie shaped section in the curved roof to see some of the tree.  Plus I think the tree will hang over in places.  The tree is very messy and I have mixed feelings about whether to work with it (meaning I have to protect as much as I can from it's mess) or get rid of it altogether.  I still need cover though because of the Texas hot sun.

Another option I've thought about is like the arched cover pic.  I would want it out of solid material for the roof (I've seen metal curved arches).  I would either have to get rid of the tree or have the structure flush and attached to the side of the house somehow. 

Also, just a note there is a small patio section off to the side with a hottub that I need to add in.  I don't plan to cover this.  It is far enough from the tree is is never too messy and we like to see the stars at night.

What you've done is so much help! I can't thank you enough.  I only got the program for this project and it is much harder to do the exteriors than it was the interiors (which I did before we built this house).

LawB10, Is is possible to obtain these missing materials?

LawB10, wow that is great!  I just needed the basic house like that so I can experiment with ideas of a roof over the patio. Ty

Ok...ty so much.

I know I will have some more questions (already do) but they are probably best under a new topic.

Would be it be impolite to ask for the file that that you altered?  

And does that make is 22" for the wrap around porch height?  I just ask so my stairs will come out right.

New thought - what if I built two stories and made the first 22" with concrete for the material and then added the second story (as if it was the first)? Edit - Sorry didn't see your post.

I wonder if it would work to make no foundation and then make exterior pony walls (22" higher than the exterior walls are right now) with concrete material on the bottom?  Would everything then be at the right level except the interior floor which I guess would need moved up 22"?

(oops just realized that Home Designer doesn't do pony walls)

Ok...before I do that will that make the interior floor come down?  

I wish I understood the problem better.  I just need 22" of concrete under my house so my porch is all concrete for the 22"  with stairs coming down and same for the porch (haven't built yet) by the french doors on the patio.

Was trying to make the foundation 22" the wrong approach in the first place?  And it makes me have to double that amount to raise/lower things to the right place.

I'm so confused

I've only ever used this program to make interiors and everything level and on one elevation.  I never tried to to the exterior.  And that was back in 2005 with a really old version of the program.

Here is what I have right now.  I set the porch back to 0 for the height.  Both it and the patio come in too high above the foundation as well as the interior floor.  I drew the slab, patio and house and it just puts everything way high. 

patio plan temp.plan

Ok. I have had time to read the responses and I am not sure what I need to do.  This is new to me and I am unclear exactly what I need to do.  I do see that the elevation of the floor is too high in the house. 

I set the build foundation at 22" to represent the pier and beam height of my foundation.  But nothing lines up right with that, including the terrain unless I force it to.

I appreciate you all being patient and helping me.  I did read and try to figure it out before starting this thread :-)

TY...I will have to work on it later.  I am out of time now.

Here ya go!

Patio plan temp..plan

Do you mean the file? Or a jpg of the floor plan?

Here is a picture.  It looks the foundation is 22" but it takes another 22" to get to the right level of the interior floor??

BTW, something I don't understand is I have the wall height set to 22" in the build foundation dialog.  But I have to set the terrain and now the porch at 44 (or -44") to make them at the right elevation.  I'm not clear why that is happening.

It isn't terribly important as I'm just using this for a mock up plan to cover the patio with an attached roof to the house. We just want a visual idea of what it will look like before building.

That did it. TY!  Now to try to put columns on.

I already have it set to porch and under structure it gives me:

Floor:

Floor Finish (K): 22"

Floor structure (L): 4"

I can change the finish from 22" to whatever.  I can't change the 4".  It cannot be edited.

I can change the room type to slab.  Should I do that?

I left the material of the porch wood so that it is easy to see.  I will make it concrete when I figure out how to place it at ground level.  Sorry, I should have attached an image earlier...was being lazy.

Ok...I made the porch floor thicker but it is all too high.  Is there a way to lower it to the ground level?  I can't seem to find it.